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Old Feb 8, 2021 | 08:32 PM
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Currently have a 4+3 (Doug nash od on t10) and plan on picking up a t56 within the next month.
will I be able to keep my current flywheel (Sachs 1050), clutch and hydraulic tob (Ram)?
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Old Feb 12, 2021 | 03:19 PM
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I don't think you'll be able to use your TOB because it probably wont bolt to the t56.
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Not sure what spline the t10 input shaft is but the t56 is a 26 spline. Unless you can resurface the pressure plate and flywheel and get a new disc then that clutch assembly won’t work. If it is 26 spline then you can get it to work. The slave cylinder needs to have the t56 bolt pattern to work.

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Old Feb 13, 2021 | 09:42 PM
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Depends on how you set it up. If you use the factory T10 bell housing and a sandwiched adapter plate bolted to the front of the T56, you can use all of it including your clutch fork and throw out bearing.
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What motor are you running?
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Which T56? If you are going with a stock GTO / F-body bellhousing and front case adapter plate, it would be simplest to go with one that fits those apps. The 1050 is, I believe taller at the surface than the flat LS1/LS6 flywheel, and has different clutch bolt pattern.

Since you have the parts in hand, mock it up and see if a stock type TOB has a proper depth to operate the clutch. If it's too short a TOB, there are shims and taller OEM TOBs. You may get lucky and just need to adapt your clutch line to the TOB and shim it a bit.

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What motor are you running?
Sachs 1050 = short crank LS.
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Not sure what spline the t10 input shaft is but the t56 is a 26 spline. Unless you can resurface the pressure plate and flywheel and get a new disc then that clutch assembly won’t work. If it is 26 spline then you can get it to work. The slave cylinder needs to have the t56 bolt pattern to work.
both 26
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What motor are you running?
Lq4/6.0
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Originally Posted by jmd
Which T56? If you are going with a stock GTO / F-body bellhousing and front case adapter plate, it would be simplest to go with one that fits those apps. The 1050 is, I believe taller at the surface than the flat LS1/LS6 flywheel, and has different clutch bolt pattern.

Since you have the parts in hand, mock it up and see if a stock type TOB has a proper depth to operate the clutch. If it's too short a TOB, there are shims and taller OEM TOBs. You may get lucky and just need to adapt your clutch line to the TOB and shim it a bit.


Sachs 1050 = short crank LS.
4th Gen fbody t56
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Originally Posted by jmd
Which T56? If you are going with a stock GTO / F-body bellhousing and front case adapter plate, it would be simplest to go with one that fits those apps. The 1050 is, I believe taller at the surface than the flat LS1/LS6 flywheel, and has different clutch bolt pattern.

Since you have the parts in hand, mock it up and see if a stock type TOB has a proper depth to operate the clutch. If it's too short a TOB, there are shims and taller OEM TOBs. You may get lucky and just need to adapt your clutch line to the TOB and shim it a bit.


Sachs 1050 = short crank LS.
im guessing the 621 bellhousing won’t bolt to a t56? I was planning on buying the ls t56 bh.
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Google what it looks like. To your question, the 621 is deeper, has a different bolt pattern, and is only really used because (with an adapter plate) due to it being a long-produced GM part that fits the LS / 168t flywheel. I don't know your total trans. length w/ the 4+3, but I'd rather run an LS1 bellhousing than a 621 / plate.
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