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Old Apr 25, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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Can I drop in the Stage 3 clutch and not use a adjustable master cylinder?
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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You can, but you'll wish you did.
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 02:27 AM
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Plan on dropping your tranny soon after when the clutch blows up <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> . Seriously, if you haven't bought the clutch yet go with something else. McCleod and Ram have some very proven setups that work great. My Star Stage 3 clutch lasted 2K miles and one pass at the track before it blew up, destroying my tranny in the process. After the clutch f-cked me, so did Star with their customer service....

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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 07:07 AM
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Josh,
I hate it that we have to keep meeting like this..LOL

Gold Phoenix,

I have been running the SPEC stage III for about 11,000 miles with the '01 master cylinder (non-adjustable.) SPEC recommends the stock master cylinder. I like the clutch, I haven't had any problems with the clutch itself, just the bleeding of the hydraulics.

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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 07:29 AM
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I had the star spec stage 3 kevlar one, it was a damn good clutch and held up real well, all you have to do is make sure you break it in really well... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
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Old Apr 26, 2002 | 10:07 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Josh,
I hate it that we have to keep meeting like this..LOL</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hehe, I hear ya man. I don't try to be a dick about it, but man those ******** really pissed me off the way they treated me. I swore i'd nail they're *** to the wall in every thread on the internet. Maybe I have missed a few, but I ain't goin nowhere <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 06:48 AM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Damian:
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Hehe, I hear ya man. I don't try to be a dick about it, but man those ******** really pissed me off the way they treated me. I swore i'd nail they're *** to the wall in every thread on the internet. Maybe I have missed a few, but I ain't goin nowhere <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

I understand, I try to the the same and give credit where it is due.. I took a big chance when I ordered their clutch because I believe I saw your post and a couple of others about their experiences right when it was time to order. But, I also heard alot about the Mcleod clutches blowing out. Oh well, all's fair right?

BTW, what clutch setup are you running? Are you using the upgraded hydraulics w/adjustable master? I am currently having some major hydraulic issues right now, and I did upgrade mine.
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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 07:37 AM
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I have the spec stage 2... The adj master is necessary from what I read for most. There seem to be flukes here and there that don't need it. My tranny guy had to put a mcleod shim in just to make it work cause it wouldn't work with a non adjustable. Now I have the adjustable. The clutch seems to have lasted a long time so far... since last summer. I am having other issues now though... not sure what is causing them... might not have anything to do with the clutch... it still bites hard.

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Old Apr 27, 2002 | 04:59 PM
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">BTW, what clutch setup are you running? Are you using the upgraded hydraulics w/adjustable master? I am currently having some major hydraulic issues right now, and I did upgrade mine.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Now I am running a Ram 402/6130 combo, with a Cartek adj. master. This setup ROCKS. Almost to streetable to hold that much power, but it HOLDS. I have beat the living **** out of this clutch since I put it in the car (no break in <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> ) and it's worked flawlessly 2000 miles later with no signs of giving up anytime soon. One thing I couldn't stand about the Star clutch was that it rattled my damn teeth out. The Ram clutch is nice and smooth, with a little extra grab from a stop...

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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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Josh,

Do you know what exactly Cartek does to their adjustable masters? Do they basically just do like most of the "home made" adjustables, or do they replace the piston with a larger bore? I am having a major problem with my clutch sticking to the floor. It just started a couple of weeks ago, so I thought I could bleed it and make it better. But it got worse, now I can not even drive it hard because the clutch pedal will stay on the floor after third gear. I am going to try to bleed it a different way today, but if that doesn't work, I will try an adjustable master. I just don't want to pay 100.00 for something I can make myself. I really don't want to pay 200.00 for something that (in my opinion) is terribly over priced.

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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 10:10 AM
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Kevin, I agree with you on both points. Paying 100 bucks for something you could make yourself isn't practical. I have never seen a McCleod unit in person so I can't comment.

As for the Cartek, it's basically a home made stock adj. master. I only paid 65 bucks for mine, but thats because I fuggin SUCK at fabricating **** <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 01:04 PM
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Josh,

Well, I just played my last card with trying to bleed the clutch <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="gr_images/icons/mad.gif" /> . I guess I am going to have to try the adjustable master. Hopefully, I will have better luck with that.

I'll see you at the next SPEC post..LOL
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Old Apr 28, 2002 | 11:12 PM
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Hey Kevin , Check out my topic in here on my clutch install need your advice !
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Old Apr 29, 2002 | 07:48 AM
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Billy,

Gotcha covered!
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Old Apr 29, 2002 | 07:03 PM
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gold phoenix yes you can drop in the clutch with the stock master, that is what is reccomended actually.

this clutch (gen 1 stage 3) retains all of the stock clutch's dimensions and thickesses so any problems would be hydraulic.
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