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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:29 AM
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Not synchros, every gear does it. Goes in to gear smoothly shifts ok when shifting slower. When shifted hard slight grind in every gear (w/exception of reverse). Stock new slave, master is stock modified for adjustment. Got the whole trans/clutch setup from smokinhawk who said it worked great going 135 mph (traps). Now the slave does have a shim under it, i am wondering if the shim could cause the pressure plate to be over extended? Put a lot of slack in the pedal to reduce travel/brings pedal engagemant closer to floor, just makes it where it does not go in to gear from idle (net enough deisngagement). Seems like the input shaft may be spinning still between shifts. Will do it at high rpm as well as 2k rpm on a fast shift. Has some stage 3 clutch (don't remember brand).

Ideas on what to check next?

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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 06:14 AM
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i almost swear i've seen this exact post and answered it before. deja vu like crazy! imma search and see if i can find it.
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 08:53 AM
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sounds like you still have air in the slave bleed the system some more then check the disengagement of the disk
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 12:51 PM
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maybe your letting the clutch out faster than your putting it in gear
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:21 PM
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DRILL MOD FTW!...
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by gonefishn1212
maybe your letting the clutch out faster than your putting it in gear
+1 ON THAT
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 03:08 PM
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yea +1

instead of the drill mod, do the driver mod first.

Originally Posted by gonefishn1212
maybe your letting the clutch out faster than your putting it in gear
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Old Nov 8, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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actually i can shift fast and not release the clutch and still grinds every gear. No air in the system for sure and drill mod is already done. Not a pedal problem, seems like the input shaft on trans is still turning enough to cause the grind.
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sounds like simply worn synchros, then
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I have this same problem......it doesn't grind hardly ever under normal driving conditions, however when WOT, it will grind every gear after 2nd gear for me. I'm thinking it's synchro's myself
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 07:49 AM
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i have the same problem it seems only cars with over 400 hp do that. i had the stock trans rebuilt while the car was still under warrenty 3 times for that problem! im just investing in a race 6spd trans unless someone has an other solution , is it more cost effective to rebuild or get new?
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 11:28 AM
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I have the same problem. I was over a second between gears 2-3, 3-4 at the track last night (and even 4-5 on the interstate). It just doesn't want to go. But if I just muscle it it'll go, while feeling a slight "crunch". Doesn't pop out of gear. Comes out of gear fine. Just has a tough time going into gear.
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 12:01 PM
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Try pushing in the clutch....
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Old Nov 11, 2006 | 12:05 PM
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Oh that helps a lot. Thanks. I knew there was something wrong.
Anybody got any helpful input?
Is synchros the basic consensus here?
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Old Nov 12, 2006 | 08:30 PM
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What fluid are you using?


I got major grindage when I switched to Synthetic


Went back to Dex3 and the shifts were trouble free


I'm also using a shim with my Spec 3 X-Pad (updated master/slave) and I don't really see how it could overextend the pressure plate


Only problem I see it causing would be premature TB failure due to resting on the PP fingers constantly.....





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What type of shifter are you running?
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Old Dec 9, 2006 | 08:24 PM
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did you figure it out?
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