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Old 12-25-2006, 01:46 PM
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Its something like a 0.82/0.64 Im going with..

Not sure why the numbers quoted in some places are slightly different.
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How long did it take to do the standing mile?? If you were low on power where you needed it most, you should hit 200. Intimi8 did. You make the same power. Turn up the boost 1 more psi to comp for ther aerodynamics!
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Originally Posted by nitrorocket
I want to do that standing mile too! It wouls e cool to say you can do 200+ in the standing mile. Some guys can only do 199.4 I here. What's that!

LOL, thanks

Fwiw that was at 19lbs of boost, or about 790rwhp. (makes 100 more at 24psi).

6,800rpm with 315/35/17's, .80 5th gear and 3.25 rear gears. (would have been better with a 3.0 rear gear to go through the traps with less rpm).

The G-force trans will take full power upshifts no problem. Unless I'm just on the Goodyear Eagles, every run down the track is made without lifting off the gas pedal and it just clicks into gear.
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I am making just about the same power and have 3.08 gears. I guess I have to talk the wife into learning how to drive a stick now.(No comments necessary!) What about a matching clutch?

Boy... hard choice. I really like my T400 with the brake, but I do not have overdrive, I can never go 200 mph, and It will be harder to roadrace. Hmmm.
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I'm not in quite the same league, but I hit about 650rwhp and the t56 has held up very well. I'm even using a *gasp* SPEC clutch!
Old 12-26-2006, 03:28 PM
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What kind of clutch and flywheel handles this kind of power??
Old 12-26-2006, 03:59 PM
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McLeod street twin
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Is that pretty much the only choice for a clutch?

As far as the trans, are there better years then others??

What about a flywheel??

This 6 speed thing is all new to me, I have been doing some research, but not many guys run this power level, so recomendations are different.
Old 12-26-2006, 05:53 PM
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Lotta people been going with the textrailia twin plate too, though I don't know if it's available with an aluminum flywheel.
Some people in the road racing tell me that you can't use an aluminum flywheel on the street though as you have no moment of inertia to speak of. Meaning you can't just let the clutch out slowly, without giving any gas, and have the vehicle creep forward. With a heavy flywheel, this is a breeze, as it has a lot of inertia.
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Originally Posted by Castrellon
Some people in the road racing tell me that you can't use an aluminum flywheel on the street though as you have no moment of inertia to speak of.
What a load of *****. Perhaps if you had a small cc engine with no torque, and a big heavy car....with an LS1 it will be fine.

But dont forget, the clutch cover itself is a massive weight.

An Alloy flywheel isnt going to make that much of a difference.
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Does anyone have experience with the Ram twin disc?
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Hey stevie...How has your trans held up?? What are some pros and cons?? What is done or would you like to do?
Old 12-28-2006, 01:26 AM
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Originally Posted by Cool_Hand_Luke
So whats the hp rating on the T56?

I know drive train components fit into the mix, but at least a guesstimation.
I believe they say its 450 horse but I bet it can handle 800+ with a good driver.
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Originally Posted by nitrorocket
Hey stevie...How has your trans held up?? What are some pros and cons?? What is done or would you like to do?
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Currently my trans is stock. OZ700 sprung plated Textralia clutch, and some Fuchs ATF4000 Dexron III.

Nothing fancy at all, and its holding up superbly. I dont hammer it off the line as yet, with 1.7x being my best 60fts launching around 4500rpm.
Im also quite easy as a driver, I dont flat shift, and dont abuse the trans in daily use, although on the road, the tyres aid box longivity. ie lack of traction.

Im going for the full package from T56rebuilds. Everything they do to a stock T56 + fully cryo'd gears and a 30T output shaft and shorter 5th and 6th gears

I did consider a G-Force, but in the end opted for the cryo'd standard box instead.
My current box hasnt broke and its stock, so I think the cryo' box will be fine. My biggest concern was the stock 27T output shaft anyway. Fair enough, gears may get chewed up, but I'll always have 4th gear to get me home regardless.
If the output shaft breaks, Im stranded.

Hopefully Amber will be shipping it out any day now. Might be a while before Im racing again though, but should be able to get some road miles on it soon enough.
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Has anyone actually ever broke a 6 speed?? Between yours, MM, and INTMD8, you all have the big power, and seem to have not actually broken a T56... Correct?
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Oh we have broken 3 of them. I have a lot of customers who send theres in broken with 800+hp but it all depends on how you drive it. Ours were not normal parts failures but parts that just could not handle what we do. We just continue to rebuild it and put it back in the car. It wouldn't look good for T56Rebuilds.com not to use there own transmission It also gives us a good idea of what breaks and when.

Thanks,
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Originally Posted by nitrorocket
Has anyone actually ever broke a 6 speed?? Between yours, MM, and INTMD8, you all have the big power, and seem to have not actually broken a T56... Correct?

Well, I would consider stripping all the teeth off of the input shaft gear and countershaft gear broken, but that's just me
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How did that happen?
Old 12-28-2006, 10:38 PM
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WOT in 3rd gear on the street. This was from a lower RPM roll in 3rd, not a 2-3 upshift.
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Hey, Amber whats your top T-56 rebuild package rated at in terms of HP/torque. You know for my own personqal refference.... and maybe the future.


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