LSGunZ28

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.. Should come along tuesday and get back in the car.

did anyone rebuild their own T-56 and realize it wasnt fully the same as what the instructions said?

Why does my shift rail keep pushing the fork causing the 3rd gear slider to engage into 3rd?

Also what kind of break in should I perform?

PlatnumStatuz

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The case pushes the shift rod and shifts the tranny when you slide the case over the gears. I know it can be a bitch tho. I lube the shift rod and the shift rod bushing with transdel and try to put the selector in between 2 gears so that it it doesn't engage either one and that makes it a little less frustrating for me.

Fire-formula 93

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If you dont mind me askin', what else wasnt the same as the instructions? I am about to dive into this real soon.

99FormulaWs6

To keep the fork from shifting, I usually place a socket underneath the shift fork and pull it out after the case starts coming down. Also see here, this may be of some help as you start to wrap up.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showpost....97&postcount=6

Fire-formula 93

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YOU ARE GOD!! Thank you for that link, that will help out so much!

99FormulaWs6

No problem, I figure people have helped me plenty, it's the least I can do.

LSGunZ28

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so any break in period?

tHIS is taking forever, I just needed to get an input shaft shim. Now I think Im done. I just have 5 pieces that Im not sure where they go. I think 2 are spacers and one or 2 are thrust washers and they all go after the case is together on the 5 and 6 gear assambly.

one is plastic and one is a thicker black metal.

lastly the 5th object is also like a stepped black washer, but it has 2 steps, the inner area is lower. and its a bit thick to be called a washer.. can anyone help me with these?

also do I press on the 5 and 6th driven gear before I install the 5 and 6th assembly that mates with the clustershaft?

calhoon

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I would be conernecd about the plastic parts. There is a black spacer that goes at the back with the reverse sync. so you are not too late with that. There is a 3rd gear bearing spacer that is a white/ amber colored spacer that must be there if you expect the trans to last long.

99FormulaWs6

If you can get a good picture of your "leftovers" I'll tell you where they go.

onebad82z

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Where can one get this "transdel" for a rebuild? What does everyone use as a lube when rebuilding a T56? Is this the red stuff I always see in pics?

PlatnumStatuz

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aka vasaline with dye

LSGunZ28

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Okay, the amber spacer has been placed, because I remember not finding that and having to go to a trans shop 40 minutes away to pick up that part, it was the only amber platic part in thetrans beside the funnel that goes on the 5 and 6 th gears that mate with the clustershaft. that color right?

edi: you are right it was a whiter plastic color vs the funnel being a darker color. It went on the mainshaft right where 3rd gear went, correct?

LSGunZ28

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hope that works

LSGunZ28

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here was the input shaft shim BTW

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...wfolder002.jpg

a pic of the T-56 when it was fully apart and some damaged goods..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...wfolder183.jpg

this is what happens when the pullers dont work to get the 5th/6th driven gears off.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y23...older001-2.jpg

Tootall

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Did you hammer it off?

LSGunZ28

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I couldnt take it off, with bearing splitters and pullers. I even got a special pulkler tool from T-56 rebuilds, but it didnt work. all I did was chip more and more teeth.. I tried torching it, etc... nothing worked. So I had to grind off teeth and pull it out of the case as an assembly. We used the hydraulic press to move it off.

15 tons of force to move the damn gear. Never has anything been so hard to take off.

The new one, however, went on like butter. ( with the aid of a press of course)

Fire-formula 93

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Holy Crap! Mine slid right off thank god. Let me look at my dissasembled t56 and see if I can help you out with the leftovers.

Fire-formula 93

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Okay the two silver spacers at the bottom of your pic are part of a yellowish colored bearing that is in between the speed sensor and reverse gear on mainshaft. It is the first bearing you pull off if you are tearing the t56 apart. So one spacer lies on top of the bearing and one underneath (assuming the tranny is vertical).

The ring towards the top of your picture looks like it goes right on top of the reverse synchro assembly.

Not sure yet about 2nd piece down.

Now the last spacer, towards the right of your pic, looks like it goes between the yellowish bearing (as described before) and the reverse gear.

So if you look at your mainshaft from the top to the reverse slider (synchro) assembly you should see:

-black rubber piece
-smaller size snap/lock ring
-speed sensor gear
-smaller snap ring
-larger size snap ring
-spacer (one of the silver pieces toward bottom of pic)
-Yellowish bearing
-spacer (other silver piece toward bottom of pic, they look identical)
-larger snap ring
-large thick spacer (rightmost piece in pic)
-reverse gear with needle bearing inside
-bronze synchro ring
-larger snap ring
-reverse slider assembly with thin spacer on top (piece towards top of pic)


This is the order I removed them off of the mainshaft, I wrote everything down. I have to look a little more for the other leftover piece you have there.

Alright here is a pic before tearing it apart:

LSGunZ28

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Thanks a lot!.. so that means I have everything installed in the first case. I can seal it with RTV and torque the bolts and Im good to go. Now do I press on the 5th / 6th driven gear next?

Fire-formula 93

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Yeah do you have pipe to fit over the mainshaft? Actually I would find out what that leftover piece is first before doing anything.