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Old Aug 30, 2007 | 05:24 PM
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ok, everything is new from the block to the trans.....

all spec stuff

stage 3+ clutch, spec flywheel, brand new gm slave, new pilot and throwout bearings, everything is torqued down properly, we checked and double checked....



start the car, and there is still a rattle, i have NO clue what it could be, im stumped.


can anyone describe what clutch chatter sounds like?


i think im gonna get a video for you guys to diagnose cause we are lost!


ANY help will be good. thanks.
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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anybody?


nobody has had a problem like this with a spec clutch?

please help!
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 10:53 AM
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Chatter occurs when you are releasing the pedal, engageing the clutch, and is generally limited to 1st gear/reverse starts. It is a sound attributed to the disc material contacting the flywheel (think of it as the material scuffing across each other). Gear noise is already a common factor with the T56...the tranny make a little noise from the factory and a lightened flywheel can allow this sound to be heard more clearly because of the reduce mass and thus decreased dampening.

Something to check...does the sound happen when the pedal is released only (does it go away when you put pressure on the pedal)? Is it a sound only or is there a feel associated with it (vibration). If there is a vibration, does it change with RPM (i.e. is the frequency relative to engine speed). Let me know and I will be happy to assist you further. Thanks!!!
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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i got video, it will be up shortly
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Old Aug 31, 2007 | 03:57 PM
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here is video, brace yourself.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JF2lMTFCpEU

spec, anyone else.........please help
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 12:56 PM
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anyone watch the vid?
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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That **** sound really messed up, are you sure its coming from inside the bellhousing? Id be pulling **** apart ASAP that really sounds bad. My 3+ makes no sounds like that at all.
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Old Sep 1, 2007 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
That **** sound really messed up, are you sure its coming from inside the bellhousing? Id be pulling **** apart ASAP that really sounds bad. My 3+ makes no sounds like that at all.
yea, that sounds really bad man! it sounds like its hitting something as the assembly spins!

i second the notion of pulling it apart ASAP
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we plan on pulling it back apart, we just cant figure out what could be doing it, like i said its all brand new!


thanks guys.
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anyonw else?
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Old Sep 3, 2007 | 07:54 PM
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got a new starter, read that that could have been the problem..



it wasnt.


we are freakin stumped.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:32 PM
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my car had just started making that exact same noise. i thought it was inmy clutch to. So I pulled the tranny and the clutch didnt have anything noticably sticking out. So I started the engine without the tranny hooked up. guess what.....still knocking. Time to pull the motor. Maybe it is in your clutch, just sounds to consistent with the RPM's.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 09:58 PM
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WOW!! I too vote internal engine noise, connecting rod bearing, cracked/broken piston in rist pin area, or worn wrist pin. Was this engine completely dissassembled, were the wrist pins properly lubed on reassembly?
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:15 PM
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Quit Reving that thing. It doesn't sound like the clutch to me. I agree with Midget on this one. If your clutch pedal is pushed in it should disengage the clutch so the noise shouldn't be there. If it is still there then it should go away with the clutch engaged. I have never heard any clutch noise that does while engaged and disengaged and the noise stays the same. I had a bolt on time that came out of the slave cylinder and was bouncing around my bellhousing and it didn't make that much noise. I would pull tranny and start car with tranny unbolted and clutch pulled off. Don't run it very long like that and see if the noise is still there.
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Old Sep 4, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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Sounds like a valvetrain problem. Piston to valve contact. valve guide too tight holding the valve open. Something hitting the pistons from up top or something in the rotating assembly. I'd even guess something fell inside the intake port and it bouncing around on top of a piston.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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****.

see we were thinking maybe a broken valvespring or bent pushrod too.

do those have a similar sound to this?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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it doesnt take anything to pull the valvecovers..maybe you have some valvetrain damage
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