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Old 03-25-2008, 09:09 PM
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K guys, had my first Spec 3 lasted about 11k, didn't like it. Went to a RAM Powergrip, that totally sucked, clutch exploded with like 9k and 4-8 passes. Just had a Textralia, nice ride, soft pedal but big bucks but it lasted almost 2 years. Well heard a lot about SPEC 3+ so I figure I'd give it a try. Well ordered the kit and everyone says it should have a shim that came with it but there is none and neither TSP or WS6 Store (where I got it) has it listed in the kit. Nor do they have a listing for a Spec shim. Even SPEC-01 on this site said it should be shimmed. I'm pissed now cause my cars in the air and everything is on hold. What gives??? Any recommendations??

Thanks guys, I appreciate it.
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It should have a shim. When i had my kit shipped from SPEC it came with the shim.
Old 03-26-2008, 10:19 AM
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call who ever you ordered it from, and complain to them tell them, that they are costing you money buy your car being at the shop. see if they will overnight you the shim.
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I'm interested to know who you ordered it from.
Old 03-26-2008, 10:27 AM
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WS6 Store. But I don't think it was there fault, the box was wrapped good. Just not in the box.
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It comes in a plastic bag along with your SPEC sticker Might be better off calling SPEC and getting them to send it.
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If you have an adj. master is it not necessary to use a shim. This is from my experience it works good without it.
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What happens if you don't use the shim?
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Originally Posted by 2000blackcamaross
What happens if you don't use the shim?
The TO bearing will sit too fare from the pressure plate fingers and your clutch wont disengage until the pedal is pushed close to the floor.
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Hey guys...I will be happy to send him a shim. I asked him to look beneath the pressure-plate to make sure it wasn't just somewhere else in the box. We send a shim inside every LS1 kit that we build...and it is very rare for a kit to ship without it. That being the case if he needs one...we have them. I just haven't heard back from him via IM but I didn't want anyone thinking I was leaving him hanging! Thanks!

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Glad to hear you are will int to take care of him.

You said if the shim is not used the clutch will disengage closer to the floor but is that the only issue? Will the clutch slip or wear faster without the shim in there? I only ask because I have a buddy that didn't install the shim on his Camaro.
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Originally Posted by 2000blackcamaross
Will the clutch slip or wear faster without the shim in there? I only ask because I have a buddy that didn't install the shim on his Camaro.

It can wear faster if the clutch will not fully disengage. That could vary from car to car.
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Good to know. I will pass on the info and hopefully I will be busy when he decides to put it in. lol
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Just to let you guys know SPEC-01 been on it from the get go. He PM'd me at least 3x but I had to go. Haven't had a chance to go and do another complete check til now and there is none anywhere. He's been very helpful.

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Originally Posted by brad8266
It can wear faster if the clutch will not fully disengage. That could vary from car to car.
That would be if you use the shim and didn't need it. If you don't use it, but should have it would have a low pedal or not release enough.
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i have a shim here somewhere in my shop. it would take a minute to find it. lol yeah i got stupid and decided that it might be a good idea to just blow off putting the shim behind my slave and now im paying for it by having to get a new clutch.
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Not using the shim would lead to a lack of release and thus a greater potential for wear for the transmission. If you needed it and didn't have it installed you would have issues shifting and a very low pedal. It should be pretty obvious!
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I have a shim I could send you if you cover the shipping.LMK
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can you use the shim with a RAM adjustable master cylinder?
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The shim is a 50/50 if needed.The best way is to measure the clearance of the slave bearing to the PP.Most of the clutches we do,do not need the shim and if we did put them in the clutch would fail early due to constant pressure on the PP.


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