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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 12:24 PM
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I have had the short stick on my car for about a month now, but there seems to be a slight "issue" with it, and only noticed it when I put that on there, and never noticed it the stock hurst shifter. Whenever I am trying to downshift, say going into 2nd at 50 mph, slowing for a turn, you can hear slight, quiet grinding. With no music on, you can hear it. I don't know if it my syncros, or from the shifter. Going into 1st at around 30mph is where you can really hear it, but if I wait till about 10-15 mph to put it into gear, it slides in a lot easier and will hardly grind. Is this directly related to my short stick, or is it coming from back syncros in the transmission? Thanks.
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 09:47 PM
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Sounds like your trans to me.
If your trying to hit those gears at that speed downshifting with the motor at or near idle I expect it to make noise.
Depends on how's it's geared (rear & tire size) but you need to rev match to get smooth down shifts @ higher speeds for a low gear.
A stock m-6 is doing 3600rpm in 1st @ 30mph, 4000rpm in 2nd @ 50 mph for example.
You try to shift those at those speeds at or near idle your giving the trans a workout.
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Old Sep 10, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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I'm pretty sure it's just that the stocker was better "noise sealed" lol.

I put a pro 5.0 shifter on a t56 a while back, with the short stick. You hear every noise the tranny makes. Nothing is wrong, you just don't have a big rubber bushing to cancel out any noise anymore. You're new shortstick doubles as a pitch fork for synchro grinding!

Enjoy!
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So no issues then? Wrencher, I am running 4.10s, but the grinding is making noises with my clutch completly depressed and going into gears. Not like it is shooting up revs, and rev matching, I mean having the cluch all the way pressed in, going into any gears except if I'm slowing down to a very low roll makes those noises. If z28 is right, then its cool and whatever. I'm just worried that I MIGHT be causing damage to my trans...right now as a broke college student, money for a new t-56 is pretty iffy.
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 11:31 AM
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So no issues then? Wrencher, I am running 4.10s, but the grinding is making noises with my clutch completly depressed and going into gears. Not like it is shooting up revs, and rev matching, I mean having the cluch all the way pressed in, going into any gears except if I'm slowing down to a very low roll makes those noises. If z28 is right, then its cool and whatever. I'm just worried that I MIGHT be causing damage to my trans...right now as a broke college student, money for a new t-56 is pretty iffy.
Is it making a loud grinding noise that is followed up by a grinding fealing to your hand? Or a really quiet higher pitched "whining" gear noise that you can hardly feel if even that?
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Old Sep 11, 2008 | 11:43 AM
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i have the same short stick. had it for about 3 years. i like it.
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So no issues then? Wrencher, I am running 4.10s, but the grinding is making noises with my clutch completly depressed and going into gears. Not like it is shooting up revs, and rev matching, I mean having the cluch all the way pressed in, going into any gears except if I'm slowing down to a very low roll makes those noises. If z28 is right, then its cool and whatever. I'm just worried that I MIGHT be causing damage to my trans...right now as a broke college student, money for a new t-56 is pretty iffy.
OK in that cased the aftermarket shifters do make a lot more noise. They don't have all the dampening to keep the noise down like stated b-4.
I wasn't sure if you where trying to jamb gears here
It could potentially be a future problem, but it's real hard to detemain that not seeing it first hand.
But expect more noise with the new shifter, the farther from stock you get..... lol
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Ok then, thanks. I have been adjusting my driving style so I wont hear or notice the grinding noise. z28, it is not a whinning noise, it is a slight grinding type noise. Not like gears grinding, hard to explain. I think it is just shifter noise. Thanks guys.
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If all you changed was the shifter stick, then it has nothing to do with it. When I changed the SHIFTER to a Pro 5.0, I could hear a bit more whine. I'v got the LSS too. Love it.
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Now then, new issue. When I get in it 1st gear, and I climb to redline, it will gring and/or make a loud bang and be very hard to get into 2nd gear. Seems like the syncros are going out.... Opinions?
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Old Sep 19, 2008 | 06:03 PM
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Now then, new issue. When I get in it 1st gear, and I climb to redline, it will gring and/or make a loud bang and be very hard to get into 2nd gear. Seems like the syncros are going out.... Opinions?
Could also be the clutch master/slave going out.

Before you bide for a whole trans rebuild, bleed the system.

I believe the process is a sticky.
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