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RPM WS6 - Yep I average about 60 miles per day. Most of it is on I-294 going to O'hare where my work is currently located. For the gears, I actually have a set of 2.73s in the Z so I was considering swapping those in if I purchased a car with a 3.23
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deelong4002 - That was another concern for me in getting a DD F-body. Which is kind of why I was looking into a Firebird with opposite type colors. Figured since it has enough appearance differences for me to not lose to much interest in the Camaro. Plus the Firebird will remain 100% stock... where as the Camaro already has a decent amount done to it and I have a P1SC-1 setup going in probably in spring. So the power differences will be quite broad as well. But being the same type of car obviously will take away. I know RPW WS6 has this similar issue (he has a show Z and a DD Z). This is also why I was looking more into a C5 at 1st. But since its too low it would turn into a plow and stop the car in its tracks.
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deelong4002 - That was another concern for me in getting a DD F-body. Which is kind of why I was looking into a Firebird with opposite type colors. Figured since it has enough appearance differences for me to not lose to much interest in the Camaro. Plus the Firebird will remain 100% stock... where as the Camaro already has a decent amount done to it and I have a P1SC-1 setup going in probably in spring. So the power differences will be quite broad as well. But being the same type of car obviously will take away. I know RPW WS6 has this similar issue (he has a show Z and a DD Z). This is also why I was looking more into a C5 at 1st. But since its too low it would turn into a plow and stop the car in its tracks.
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In my opinion its just going to make your camaro loose its fun cause you would basically be driving the same car all the time. I like to drive my monte carlo to work, and then when its nice out, or on fridays i like to drive the camaro. Otherwise its not a toy anymore. One week i had to drive it every day cause my GF needed my car, and it rained every day, and i still havent forgiven myself. And then i noticed just how not so fun it is to drive in traffic and such. In my opinion, get yourself another front wheel drive vehicle. One that is way different than your camaro.
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deelong4002 - That was another concern for me in getting a DD F-body. Which is kind of why I was looking into a Firebird with opposite type colors. Figured since it has enough appearance differences for me to not lose to much interest in the Camaro. Plus the Firebird will remain 100% stock... where as the Camaro already has a decent amount done to it and I have a P1SC-1 setup going in probably in spring. So the power differences will be quite broad as well. But being the same type of car obviously will take away. I know RPW WS6 has this similar issue (he has a show Z and a DD Z).
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It'll be much better for you since the appearance and power difference will be very noticeable. Both of my F-bodies are LS1 Z28s in nearly the same color, with nearly the same wheels, and nearly the same minor bolt-ons. But even still, I do get enjoyment out of the '98 car when I drive it. It's like going to a Chevy dealer in '98 and driving it brand new again. I don't even realize the age and wear on my 82k mile '02 until I bounce from that car to the 15k mile '98.
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In my opinion its just going to make your camaro loose its fun cause you would basically be driving the same car all the time. I like to drive my monte carlo to work, and then when its nice out, or on fridays i like to drive the camaro. Otherwise its not a toy anymore. One week i had to drive it every day cause my GF needed my car, and it rained every day, and i still havent forgiven myself. And then i noticed just how not so fun it is to drive in traffic and such. In my opinion, get yourself another front wheel drive vehicle. One that is way different than your camaro.
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I would put 100-150 lbs of sand in the truck and that helped a lot, I DD'd a 1992 GT T5, 1994 Z/28 A4, and then a 1998 SS M6.
My current 2006 TBSS RWD has about 250 lbs of sand in back. These wide factory 20's need a little help here and there and the weight makes a big difference.
My current 2006 TBSS RWD has about 250 lbs of sand in back. These wide factory 20's need a little help here and there and the weight makes a big difference.
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There is certain amount of Drama in everything you do in an F-car. Nothing is subtle. At one point I had a Wrong wheel drive car as a DD but never drove it because even sitting still in traffic I missed the feel of the Z28, the sound of the exhaust, the rattles and squeaks, and the torque of the engine even as I creep along at 10mph. I love the way other car guys in their boring DD's stare... cringing, Probably thinking how stupid I am for driving it in the weather while jealously saying under their breath, "oohhh if I had my _____ right now I'd show him whats up." lol! I never say that! To me sitting behind the wheel of anything else other than a big v8 sledgehammer of a car is just not driving.
It takes somewhat of a hardcore car person to 100% DD one of these things in Chicago weather. It's not for everyone. If squeaks, rattles, and a brute of a car are not your thing, then avoid DD'ing one....especially in the winter.
Oh, one more thing. A 4th gen F-body feels like a luxury car compared to my Nova. Leaf springs and ladder bars make it feel like driving a forklift.
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The stock converter hits the flash point pretty hard even with very little throttle input and that is where the loose stall really helps. It is true the stall does put the car into a range where it makes more torque but it does it a lot more gently than the stock converter making it really easy to so start off with no spin. It depends a lot on the converter as well. at one point I had a Piece of **** Fuddle 3600 in the car and that thing was loose as hell and would grab pretty hard at low throttle inputs which made it harder to drive. I'm a ton happier these days with the Vig 3600 thats for sure... the Vig is better all around.
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I drive my lt1 because I can't afford or store anything else. I have only 75lbs of sand in the back and 225/55or60/16 on the stock TA rims and the car is pretty good.
Once in awhile I get stuck in the damn parking spots, so I really shovel the spot I'm parked in. Other than that, it's pretty good.
You have to be light on the throttle
Once in awhile I get stuck in the damn parking spots, so I really shovel the spot I'm parked in. Other than that, it's pretty good.
You have to be light on the throttle
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I don't even think I could DD the firebird during the winters. Even my wifes car has a little trouble making it up the driveway. So I DD the talon. Too bad it didn't come with a V8. More torque is always fun with the snow.