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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 03:41 PM
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I say can ******* Ron Turner. His ability to do nothing with both the rushing and passing game says one thing.....ITS TIME TO CHANGE YOUR GENERIC ******* OUTDATED PLAYS AND QUIT RUNNING THE ******* BALL RIGHT UP THE MIDDLE EVERY TIME. Did you notice on the one or two sweeps we did, that we actually got some yards. Fire him today. If Rex doesnt improve in 2 weeks replace him.
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 03:49 PM
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hahahaha. I was kiddn... I'm just bitter because I don't think the bears can beat the packers
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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How about that crazy fake, what they were thinking?

And right up the middle sucks when they do it so much. Some folks say Rex is on a short leash, would you guys agree?
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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We hav ebeen hearing Rex is on a short leash for the last 2-3 years until he got injured was the only time he was replaced, let his contract run up, and go spend some money next year on donovan mcnabb, who is a chicago native anyways, and can get the job done
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 04:34 PM
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i agree with ss1129, they need to can turner first and see if rex can adjust to a new offense
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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I hope we dont squander our amazing D by letting rex throw 3 pics a game and making our D be on the field for the whole game
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Old Sep 24, 2007 | 04:43 PM
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turner is horrible grossman isnt that bad when the plays that are being called suck to begin with and the defense has a good game plan on it makes it harder not to mention 3 of his INT's have come becuase the dumbass reciever half-asses the route and its EVEN harder when the running game sucks and they put in the floor every so often. Theres a reason rex is still startingi cant imagine griese doing anything and i wonder if anyone remebers how orton was he was being booed until they put rex in his place every acts like we have john elway or joe montana sitting on the sidelines.
BTW its not like the cowboys/chargers are slouches(sp) on D
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 12:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Kanes2413
turner is horrible grossman isnt that bad when the plays that are being called suck to begin with and the defense has a good game plan on it makes it harder not to mention 3 of his INT's have come becuase the dumbass reciever half-asses the route and its EVEN harder when the running game sucks and they put in the floor every so often. Theres a reason rex is still startingi cant imagine griese doing anything and i wonder if anyone remebers how orton was he was being booed until they put rex in his place every acts like we have john elway or joe montana sitting on the sidelines.
BTW its not like the cowboys/chargers are slouches(sp) on D
well said, i support rex
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 06:40 AM
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where did you find that?
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Taubr Unit
I was still giving rex a chance this year hoping that all summer he got hisshit toghter.... guess not. When defenders run to sack him he just falls over, doesnt scramble AT ALL!!
Exactly! And this is not Ron Turner's fault, this is a key weakness of Grossman, he doesn't scramble and when he does he always goes back.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 08:58 AM
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Exactly! And this is not Ron Turner's fault, this is a key weakness of Grossman, he doesn't scramble and when he does he always goes back.


exactly, an avoidable sack or a 5 yard sack for a good quarterback turns into a 15yard loss and sack on grossman.

Secondly they should test Wrecks Games Grossman peripheral vision. Again he always looks in one direction once the ball is hiked, leading the defense to where he is passing, while at the same time he is not able to see the rush.

Grossman has 5yrs pro and hes a Freshman college quarterback at most and even then he is still second string.



Ron Turner is not to blame. The bears have a good coaching staff with a couple of players then can not execute consistently. Grossman being the number one failure. Throughout NFL, the quarterback is the leader of the team and definitely the offense. Even if grossman was a great player, he leadership skills blow. Nobody is excited or jacked up to play football with him, except the opposing defense.

Where as you ask players on other teams like the Packers or Patriots, and they will state, they are honored/excited to being playing with farve or brady. That is what the bears need.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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we may be saved, come wednesday we will see what Lovie has up his sleeve, as far as who is going to start Sunday against the Lions
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by TrammelZ28
i agree with ss1129, they need to can turner first and see if rex can adjust to a new offense
I agree running up the middle every play bacause your CAN'T THROW THE BALL gets old. So does the slant play for a 2 yard loss!! He can't make decisions, he's NOT a leader. I'm not being a jerk, I feel bad for him!! He's just not a NFL quarterback.
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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i dont really get the offense, we have an awesome duo with d-clark and greg olsen, its like what the colts do with dallas clark, in my opinion desmond clark and greg olsen are better.To open the offense up they should run shotgun 4-5 wide recievers, i mean the line is proven, maybe try this strategy with griese
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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the line is proven? they given up a ton of sacks and it doesnt help when both running backs pass block like children
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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yes they are proven, Brown, kreutz, and tait are pro bowlers, judging by 3 games isnt how you do it plus with shotgun its quicker reads and faster throws, and if the tackles get beat it still creates a narrow pocket to step up into, shotgun takes away the 5 step drop on certain passes, it would work in my opinion
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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not to mention, if your running 4-5 wide sets, it takes away how much blitzing can be done, defense blitzes someone is going to be open, which is where a qb who can read a defense is key, Griese has done that in the past, look when he was with tampa, all be it awhile ago he picked defenses apart
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Old Sep 25, 2007 | 10:39 PM
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WOOHOO...... reports name Griese to start sunday vs the lions....
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 09:54 AM
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I am not going to name this a victory, lets see what happens Sunday, i think this is a step in the right direction however.
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Old Sep 26, 2007 | 10:01 AM
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Finally,,i may start watching again.
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