I Want Rex
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in regards to a bandwagon, I have never liked grossman from the beginning.
regardless what the stats say, grossman is not a pro quarterback, will never be a good pro quarterback and even if he throws 400 touchdowns he is not a team leader and too damn dopey to be one.
I quoted John Madden earlier along these lines: For grossman to play well, he needs a perfect play, perfect protection and the receiver needs to run a perfect path while being open. If those stars are not aligned Grossman fails.
#2. The play calling for the Bears has been absolute ****.
#3. I don't think asking for less than 3 sacks a game is asking for "perfect protection"
points of where grossman sucks:
A - not a team leader
A - not a team leader
B - to damn dopey on the sidelines with little team interaction or motivation
He'd lose his voice by the end of the first half.
C - lack peripheral vision, fails to avoid the sack
PS. Griese was sacked 6 times against the Lions. Grossman has been sacked 9 times over 3 games.
D - dodges the sack in a poor fashion (many times grossman turned toward backwards to avoid the sack, which resulted in a loss of more yards)
That being said, his yards lost on sacks are not much higher than Griese's (9.11 vs. 8.67 yards/sack)
E - he is too short physically, a good quarterback should be tall to see down field (kyle orton)
F - K
J - does not protect the ball well
Grossman - 1 fumble, 6 INT's (in 3 games)
L - poor depth / distance judgement
An average team with great team leaders, naturally creates a hungry team that wins games. Players have to have a drive to play along side each other. Defensive player respect urlacher and want to play when he plays, offensive players want to play along side Brett Farve. Nobody on the bears want to play alongside grossman, they have been burned too many times by him.
They make big plays and then grossman blows the next.
I also find all the leadership comments hilarious considering Grossman and Lovie have very similar mannerisms. You going to talk about him not being a leader next? Of course not.
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I really like how now all the idiots that wanted Grossman benched after 1-2 bad games are having to defend Griese. The best part is 95% of them are ignorant as hell about the game of football so it's really easy to make them look stupid.
I also like how Griese was making excuses about how he had to get used to the speed of the game again instead of taking the blame. At least Grossman is a man and takes the blame (right or wrong) for what happens.
P.S. I know it's tough for all the bandwagoners to remember, but Griese played against these very same packers last year on new year's eve. A QB rating of 46.9, 1 TD and 2 interceptions were the results. Buckle up guys, this weekend is going to be rough. I'll personally be laughing my *** off that people actually thought we should bench Grossman for Griese.
I also like how Griese was making excuses about how he had to get used to the speed of the game again instead of taking the blame. At least Grossman is a man and takes the blame (right or wrong) for what happens.
P.S. I know it's tough for all the bandwagoners to remember, but Griese played against these very same packers last year on new year's eve. A QB rating of 46.9, 1 TD and 2 interceptions were the results. Buckle up guys, this weekend is going to be rough. I'll personally be laughing my *** off that people actually thought we should bench Grossman for Griese.
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Neither griese, or grossman is answer the bears need.
#2. yeah the play calling has not been the best, but the bears have been desperate to find a working play because of all of the failed results of a good play. meaning the players can not execute. honestly could you call a better game. doubtful
#3. all quaterbacks in the nfl feel pressure, many of them can dodge the sack or get rid of the ball to avoid a huge loss of yards. Rex can not.
What are you supposed to do? Go yell at a receiver for missing a catch? Go yell at the offensive line because he's ending up on his back 1/2 the time? Go yell at Ron Turner that running 5 yard out plays is getting him nowhere? Go yell at Benson for fumbling the ball again?
He'd lose his voice by the end of the first half.
He'd lose his voice by the end of the first half.
it sounds like you have never played on a team before....
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I really like how now all the idiots that wanted Grossman benched after 1-2 bad games are having to defend Griese. The best part is 95% of them are ignorant as hell about the game of football so it's really easy to make them look stupid.
I also like how Griese was making excuses about how he had to get used to the speed of the game again instead of taking the blame. At least Grossman is a man and takes the blame (right or wrong) for what happens.
P.S. I know it's tough for all the bandwagoners to remember, but Griese played against these very same packers last year on new year's eve. A QB rating of 46.9, 1 TD and 2 interceptions were the results. Buckle up guys, this weekend is going to be rough. I'll personally be laughing my *** off that people actually thought we should bench Grossman for Griese.
I also like how Griese was making excuses about how he had to get used to the speed of the game again instead of taking the blame. At least Grossman is a man and takes the blame (right or wrong) for what happens.
P.S. I know it's tough for all the bandwagoners to remember, but Griese played against these very same packers last year on new year's eve. A QB rating of 46.9, 1 TD and 2 interceptions were the results. Buckle up guys, this weekend is going to be rough. I'll personally be laughing my *** off that people actually thought we should bench Grossman for Griese.
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that is exactly the problem Lovie is too laid back, but I feel he is a great coach that demands respect from his team without belittling his players. This attitude works well for his position. However as a player Grossman is too laid back (its like he smoked himself stupid on weed). He shows no drive to fight and keep the ball alive and displays no push to keep his team fired up and play well, even if they are performing poor.
How about stop being a girl and make up your own damn mind about things instead of the media who just love to cause problems, maybe if u all rooted for rex and this O something woulda happen... and ill be laughing on sunday too when we go tore a new *&*&&3*#
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Nice attack on my sexuality though. That's not childish at all.
you just proved yourself that grossman should be benched, with statement #1. its pro football, if a quarterback can not lead a team down field and completes multiple interceptions, then he should be benched.
#2. yeah the play calling has not been the best, but the bears have been desperate to find a working play because of all of the failed results of a good play. meaning the players can not execute. honestly could you call a better game. doubtful
#3. all quaterbacks in the nfl feel pressure, many of them can dodge the sack or get rid of the ball to avoid a huge loss of yards. Rex can not.
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How about stop being a girl and make up your own damn mind about things instead of the media who just love to cause problems, maybe if u all rooted for rex and this O something woulda happen... and ill be laughing on sunday too when we go tore a new *&*&&3*#
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ignorance is not being open minded to others opinions and or thoughts, usually because of the lack of knowledge regarding something that is capable of knowing.
as far as the media comment. I have never followed media and I never do. I dont even read the news or watch the news. The media has a great tendency of picking apart a scapegoat like a scab that wont go away. Right now Rex is that scapegoat. Do I feel he is entirely to blame for the poor performance of the bears, NO i dont, but I do feel he is a poor quarterback and this thread is about Rex not the team.
I have not liked grossman since day he was signed. I have always felt he was a bad choice.
in regards to the sexual innuendo of grossman on his back, that was never an attack on your sexuality but more of a statement regarding that I feel you enjoy defending what myself and many other believe is a poor quarterback. Interpret the words as you will.
cant comment on the cubs I'm not cubs a fan......
I enjoyed playing baseball but watching it is as boring as watching imports race.
Cubs could win or lose. Same when the bulls had their empire. Did nothing for me.
as far as the media comment. I have never followed media and I never do. I dont even read the news or watch the news. The media has a great tendency of picking apart a scapegoat like a scab that wont go away. Right now Rex is that scapegoat. Do I feel he is entirely to blame for the poor performance of the bears, NO i dont, but I do feel he is a poor quarterback and this thread is about Rex not the team.
I have not liked grossman since day he was signed. I have always felt he was a bad choice.
in regards to the sexual innuendo of grossman on his back, that was never an attack on your sexuality but more of a statement regarding that I feel you enjoy defending what myself and many other believe is a poor quarterback. Interpret the words as you will.
cant comment on the cubs I'm not cubs a fan......
I enjoyed playing baseball but watching it is as boring as watching imports race.
Cubs could win or lose. Same when the bulls had their empire. Did nothing for me.