yup so, griese wasnt the awnser.... just put in rex please!!
griese = 1-2
rex = 1-2 ...
both 5 pics in 3 games... soo yeah...

Why do they stop running CB today he was a beast!!

 

hey atleast Griese gives us a figting chance and puts points on the board, Wrex just turned it over rarely did he help the offense

 

i know he isnt winning but i feel a lot better with griese and i was a rex fan. Defense is now the problem 34 to the vikings????

 

I agree, i feel much more confident with griese in there as well. Vikings adrain perterson looked amazing against the bears, im not sure mcgowan knew what he was doing out there in free saftey today as well. Their defense definitely didnt look as great as it normally does. Not to much pressure from the front 4 on defense and a little to much pressure on griese as always.

 

agreed

 

Schultzp85: You should also mention that Rex lost to San Diego and Dallas. Griese has now lost to the Lions and Vikings.

Yeah, getting intercepted with 3:58 left on the first play of the possession is giving us a "fighting chance."

The game was poorly managed and the play calling was crap but that's nothing new for the Bears. What was new is the defense couldn't stop the run. Missed tackles all over the place, Peterson made us look stupid. This was not the same defense that stopped LT week 1 (yes, there are some injuries but the heart just wasn't there).

Weren't some of you arguing that this team was better than the Packers just a couple days ago? Are you willing to take that back yet?

 

i still dont look at the pack and feel there a good team they caught some teams that are down and the bears just cant play for 60min atleast there scoring some points bensen atleast looked like a he played football before for a change but the defense is so lackluster right now

 

Oh yeah, thanks .. actually lost to good teams.....

 

most people would agree and state that they feel more comfortable with griese as quarterback.

is he the answer NO he is not, is grossman the answer hell NO.

Right now, there is a problem with the quarterback position and also a problem with defense.

the only great standout player on the bears right now is hester. everyone else is playing average at best.

 

It's not a quarterback problem, it's an offense problem that starts at the top. I've stated this how many times?

It's funny how you'll single out 1 player as the problem on offense (after two mediocre ones have played terribly in it) but you think the problem on defense is a problem as an entire unit.

As i've said before, I hope Grossman stays on the bench and goes into the free agent market at the end of the year. He was screwed in Chicago since day one by ignorant fans that see Griese and think of Bob. Everyone wanted Griese, well enjoy the bed you made and continue looking through those rose colored glasses. The problem is not at the QB position and never was. The problem lays in the play calling, the offensive line, and lack of running game.

 

Are you Rex? If not, I question your judgement. I don't hold me breath everytime Griese throws the ball. Anyways it doesn't matter now because the whole team sucks, besides Hester. I hope they TRY to off Grossman and keep Griese for a back up to a REAL quarterback. They need ALOT of help on both sides of the ball. I'm not sure if I'll waste anymore time on watching them this year.

 

Said like a true fan.

I'm critical of the Bears decisions and 95% of their fans, but at least i'm not turning my back on the team. The same fans that are turning their back on the team are the ones that don't realize that in 2 years Griese will be gone so we should try to develop at the very least a good backup. Whether that's Orton or Grossman, I don't care but what we're doing right now is pointless. We have 3 mediocre quarterbacks and we're playing the one with the least potential for the team long term.

Don't worry though, us Bears fans will be here when the team gets good to welcome you back and nod politely at all the ignorant things you think about the team.

 

Now here's what I was talking about with Rex:

Last year at a preseason game (imagine that, I went to a game BEFORE they went to the Superbowl, before they even won a regular season game) there were people booing Rex after a interception. Griese then got more applause than Rex did and numerous people around me were shouting for him to come in all game. Mind you, they're destroying the Chargers right now and it's preseason at home, there is no reason for booing or a quarterback controversy.

The minute Rex slipped up last year, everyone called for Griese. This is of course after being the September player of the month and having an amazing stretch.
The minute we got to the playoffs, everyone called for Griese.
After we got to the Superbowl, everyone wanted Griese.
After we lost the Superbowl, everyone wanted Griese.
After we lost to SD, everyone wanted Griese even though the loss was a result of fumbles in the running game, not qb performance.

Grossman never had a chance here. The fair weather fans wanted Griese from day 1 and now they got him. Guess what? He's no better because the quarterback was never the problem. 5 yard out passes, no running game, no offensive line, those are our problems. Griese looks marginally better because the 5 yard out routes are something he excels at but the results remain the same. 1-2 with 2 losses to teams we should of beat. Awesome.

 

agreed... well said well said...

 

I'll watch the Bears...I might be cringing...but I'll still watch.

 

Add the offensive coordinator to that list and you're dead on. I have questioned Griese since he's been given the starting job and I saw the answers last week vs Minnesota. The guy checks down way too fast. He doesn't allow the play to develop where as Grossman did (in some cases too long) There were numerous plays where I saw our WR's open but Griese opted to check down to the running back.

I'll still watch and cheer for them to win just like I do every weekend.

 

I don't remember the Packers going to the Super Bowl last year.

Griese was the wise move, Grossman had his chance. I go by numbers of year that someone has been pro. Grossman went pro the same year as Romo, nuff said. Now Manning and Brady went pro farther back, and they are great as we know.

The Bears are inconsistent but give them a chance.

 

I can't believe I didn't say that straight out, I must be losing it from beating my head against the wall here. I've said it in the past though that Grossman's #1 problem was Turner's play calling. They don't exploit his strengths and run passes that are basically his biggest weakness. This has been going on for a long time but everyone ignored it.

That was last year. We're discussing the present and at the moment the Packers are the better team.

Griese went pro the same year as Peyton Manning. Nuff said... nuff said as in that's a very ignorant way to base your opinion. Romo is one of the premier quarterbacks in the league and is in a system that is based on offense. Hardly a fair comparison to Grossman.

Oh, and we don't have Manning/Romo/Bradey on the bench to replace him, we have Brian Griese and Kyle Orton. If we were replacing Grossman with a capable quarterback (I was hoping the Bears would go after Jeff Garcia in the offseason) I could see it. As far as i can see though we've replaced a quarterback that has shown slight potential to be good but has some bugs with a quarterback that is washed up and on his way out of the league. Better to get the bugs out of Grossman or Orton now considering we're 2-4 and have nothing to lose.. or else we'll be in the same situation next season.

Actually, I hope Orton goes in and Grossman gets cut based on the outside chance he turns out to be a decent starting quarterback. After the **** he's gotten from Chicago fans they don't deserve him.

 

Nobody in Chicago wants him!! Bye, Bye Rex!!

I don't think Griese is good either, but I think Rex has had quarters where he's completed more passes to the opposing team than their QB! Maybe he needs glasses?

 

I single out the quarterback situation for this reason... Just as you said earlier, "the heart just isn't there." Well that applies to the whole team.
One single player can make or break the heart of a team.

Grossman killed the heart, so he needed to be replaced. Sadly though griese is not a great quarterback to reestablish what was already broken.

There heart and spirit of the team is broken and why, because of having poor quarterbacks that do not perform and do not lead the team.

Last year the bears did well because they where riding the high from special teams (hester) and the defense performing well.

This year the team is feeling low, because of poor performance, poor quarterback and injuries...

yes the play calling has not been the best, but coaching staff I'm sure has felt desperate to find plays that work since nobody can perform. This results in a good playbook that now becomes a smaller size with poor plays, playbook

as far as the run game, yes the offense needs to step up in creating the holes to run in, but we also need a quarterback that can throw and play under pressure and make smart decisions.

The only play maker on the team that can turn their motivation from being loser to winners is hester and thats not enough. The bears need more play makers.

Again I singled out another player, but this needs to be done so teams know where to improve or what to leave alone.

In regards to you being critical of bears fan, honestly why waste the time. Let people think what they want and quit trying so hard to prove your point and or while trying to make them feel ignorant.


Players of the team and fans of the team are very similar in the fact:

that when the team is losing who wants to watch(fans), and who really wants to try and play (players). When the team is winning fans watch and enjoy more games, and the players try harder to keep the winning high going.
It common human behavior.

As far as the fans not deserving Grossman in chicago that is fine, grossman is another chapter in the bears crappy quarterback era.

I never wanted grossman or griese as a quarterback.

I'd rather see Eric Kramer as quarterback..... LOL

I do agree with Lastls1, your either grossman himself or a close friend.

Grossman has rapidly rescinded as a quarterback and should never be a starter. He had his chance!!! fans and teamn owners do not have time nor want to wait for a players potential to develop.