Corn Pickers from NE step inside!!!
What's up guys. Quick feedback on my C&S Motorsports experience. First off, Tom is a class act who definitely knows his stuff. Did the work at the right speed, didn't charge me for time he wasn't working on the car and did a fantastic job. Had the tranny and rear-end fluids replaced w/ Royal Purple, car shifts alot better and the common Corvette "rear-end rattle" is gone.
Dropped the car all the way on the stock bolts in the front and all the way in the back plus remove a section of the rear bushing. Looks great, probably dropped an inch all around.
Now the good stuff. Main reason for taking it there was to have the car re-tuned. I had the mod work done and the car tuned when it only had 290 miles on it and it has 17K now so it was time since the engine was broken in.
Here are the results:
Base pull - 341.5 RWHP @ 6000 / 332.1 RWTQ @ 4900
Final pull after the re-tune: 381.2 RWHP @ 6100 / 353.3 RWTQ @ 4800
Difference: + 39.7 RWHP / + 21.2 RWTQ
As the engine broke in, it was taking in more air and running lean and he was seeing alot of knock retard which was killing power. He made some nice adjustments to the timing and I can feel a difference in every gear including 6th.
Big difference in peak power, from 2900-5000, there is only about a 15-20HP difference, before and after. The best difference is in the "meaty" part of the HP curve where you want to see it. Before from 5000-6150, HP would jump from 316-340 (24HP). Now from 5000-6150, it jumps from 333-381 (48HP) and you can feel the difference.
Big difference in the torque band too. Even though the max tq. only increased by 21, I'm seeing a 32 RWTQ increase at 2900 and a 37 RWTQ increase at 6150. Basically, the torque curve is stronger, a little flatter and pulling harder and for a longer period then before. Before from 5000-6150, TQ would drop about 40 lbs., now it only drops about 20 lbs.
Figuring in the loss on the dyno, the motor is putting out 477HP and 442TQ at the flywheel. That's a 77HP and 42TQ increase from stock with nothing but headers, x-pipe, CAI, ported TB and intake and a tune. Pure bolt-ons mods.
Bottom line, I spent about 6 hours there yesterday and couldn't be happier with the results. If you need work done on your cars you should definitely talk to Tom @ C&S.
Dropped the car all the way on the stock bolts in the front and all the way in the back plus remove a section of the rear bushing. Looks great, probably dropped an inch all around.
Now the good stuff. Main reason for taking it there was to have the car re-tuned. I had the mod work done and the car tuned when it only had 290 miles on it and it has 17K now so it was time since the engine was broken in.
Here are the results:
Base pull - 341.5 RWHP @ 6000 / 332.1 RWTQ @ 4900
Final pull after the re-tune: 381.2 RWHP @ 6100 / 353.3 RWTQ @ 4800
Difference: + 39.7 RWHP / + 21.2 RWTQ
As the engine broke in, it was taking in more air and running lean and he was seeing alot of knock retard which was killing power. He made some nice adjustments to the timing and I can feel a difference in every gear including 6th.
Big difference in peak power, from 2900-5000, there is only about a 15-20HP difference, before and after. The best difference is in the "meaty" part of the HP curve where you want to see it. Before from 5000-6150, HP would jump from 316-340 (24HP). Now from 5000-6150, it jumps from 333-381 (48HP) and you can feel the difference.
Big difference in the torque band too. Even though the max tq. only increased by 21, I'm seeing a 32 RWTQ increase at 2900 and a 37 RWTQ increase at 6150. Basically, the torque curve is stronger, a little flatter and pulling harder and for a longer period then before. Before from 5000-6150, TQ would drop about 40 lbs., now it only drops about 20 lbs.
Figuring in the loss on the dyno, the motor is putting out 477HP and 442TQ at the flywheel. That's a 77HP and 42TQ increase from stock with nothing but headers, x-pipe, CAI, ported TB and intake and a tune. Pure bolt-ons mods.
Bottom line, I spent about 6 hours there yesterday and couldn't be happier with the results. If you need work done on your cars you should definitely talk to Tom @ C&S.
well guys I must post the current status of my car so far, this thing has been a huge project and i just got to take it out for the first time today since the cam swap. Now remember this is a rebuild and obviously its not done yet but its getting close.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X49LM1mS2No
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X49LM1mS2No
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Im from lincoln.
i just bought an 02 z28. but for the past few years ya'll might have seen me around town in a blue w/white stripes 92 z28.
if you guys do a cruise or head to the track or anything give me a pm. also, americruise will be in town pretty soon here.
i just bought an 02 z28. but for the past few years ya'll might have seen me around town in a blue w/white stripes 92 z28.
if you guys do a cruise or head to the track or anything give me a pm. also, americruise will be in town pretty soon here.
southside lincoln is where we are 40th and duxhaul and youll see prob 3 or four f bodys, plus a bunch of mustangs and a couple more f bodys up the street
carshow is a joke, stock auto white lt1 with a lot of miles beat my buddies black 96 T56 with boltons and his car is clean as ****, jus cause the white lt1 went to school there
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btw let me introduce myself and many of my friends with f bodys
heres my baby 99 m6 with lid and borla, few other bolt ons
chris 96 m6 headers lm1 full bolt ons
andrew 97 a4 shortys borla bolt ons
tanner 01 m6 longtubes borla t rex cam few other bolt ons
cole 01 m6 longtubes lm1 bolt ons
brett 93 a4 hooker cat back
jeff 94 a4 work in progress idk wat hes been doing with it
thunder 01 m6 410's NOS built 347
brian 95 a4 longtubes lm1 couple other bolt ons( recently sold for a mustang)
im pretty good friends with all these guys and we are all from south lincoln, also know of prob 5 more f bodys on southside, also know bout 10 more people with mustangs so ever in lincoln and wanna race hit me up
heres my baby 99 m6 with lid and borla, few other bolt ons
chris 96 m6 headers lm1 full bolt ons
andrew 97 a4 shortys borla bolt ons
tanner 01 m6 longtubes borla t rex cam few other bolt ons
cole 01 m6 longtubes lm1 bolt ons
brett 93 a4 hooker cat back
jeff 94 a4 work in progress idk wat hes been doing with it
thunder 01 m6 410's NOS built 347
brian 95 a4 longtubes lm1 couple other bolt ons( recently sold for a mustang)
im pretty good friends with all these guys and we are all from south lincoln, also know of prob 5 more f bodys on southside, also know bout 10 more people with mustangs so ever in lincoln and wanna race hit me up
damn id like to come make a trip down that way just to hang out even nobody seems to want to around here and the places that people have been goin to run lately keep gettin busted so im not down for that.
we have a decent racing organization, SCR we do get busted quite a bit tho, but thats whay theres like 3 or 4 diff good spots
does anyone in Lincoln have a dumped true dual exhaust? Im trying to decide what i want to do with my headers but Ive heard the odors from dumps are almost unbearable...and I kinda wanna just judge for myself.
Sometimes I really wish I loved on the south side so I could roll with you guys more offen. Its mostly a bunch of ricer **** here on the north side. Hell I havnt even been to any races in a long while cause the drive down south uses so much gas just to get there and even more gas to race!!
Sometimes I really wish I loved on the south side so I could roll with you guys more offen. Its mostly a bunch of ricer **** here on the north side. Hell I havnt even been to any races in a long while cause the drive down south uses so much gas just to get there and even more gas to race!!
Last edited by Wolfwoodx89; Apr 25, 2008 at 01:43 PM.
Well if your deleting your cats the fumes can be strong at a light or stop sign on hot days. If you check out the vid I posted above I deleted my cats and with my cam if u put ur face down by the tip it will probably bring a tear to ur eye from the fumes. Personally im going with the cut out route that way I can pick and choose when I want **** people off.
