Joining the Army, Need help picking MOS
08-25-2010, 12:53 PM
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FWIW I work with a bunch of 25S ppl, and have to step into their shoes regularly. Can be a fun gig when you are actually doing your job...which is normally deployments. Looong AIT and lots to keep track of. Great if you get into a JNN or UHN and are the type of person who likes to have a lot of stuff going on at once.
If you decide to join as enlisted, and want to go SOF, just cut the crap and go 11b/19d. Your chances of even going to selection as a pog are slim to begin with, nevermind actually being selected. Unless you know you really are that damn good.
Plus, how old are you? Can't remember now, but there is a definant age limit to get into SF, again unless they really like you.
Plus, how old are you? Can't remember now, but there is a definant age limit to get into SF, again unless they really like you.
I really hope they stop acting like this when it gets to October..
08-25-2010, 06:50 PM
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The reason i dont want to be infantry is because .. well its infantry i would like to do something that i can convert to something else later.. What is a POG? Well yea I know it is hard to get into special forces thats why they are the best. I'm 26 right now and i am pretty damn good.
08-26-2010, 09:52 AM
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Theres alot of good info here. How close are you to any post? I was a 68W, medic, and reclassed to 68g, hospital administration. I know I know, hospital stuff, not really fun sounding eh? I loved the medic part of it, administration isn't all hype of glory, but its a great job skill for retirement. If you pick something like 68WM6 (skill identifier) then you can go from enlisted to officer through the AMEDD programs-its a different side of the officer corps, basically only medical. Try also, if you want to go officer side, talking to an Amedd recruiter. The medical services corp may be able to use the business admin and place it as hospital admin. Again, not glory jobs, but def great experience in life.
In the end, you'll have to find a job that you enjoy, that you can put up with, and realize that each one has their own version of suck. My job is not a physical "suck" because very rarely do people get broken in this job, but the mental stress sometimes is "suck". Maybe just the opposite for a 13B...alot of physical stress and being broken, but not as much mental fatigue. who knows
...and yes NCOs lead the way
In the end, you'll have to find a job that you enjoy, that you can put up with, and realize that each one has their own version of suck. My job is not a physical "suck" because very rarely do people get broken in this job, but the mental stress sometimes is "suck". Maybe just the opposite for a 13B...alot of physical stress and being broken, but not as much mental fatigue. who knows
...and yes NCOs lead the way
08-26-2010, 12:38 PM
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You should look into Psyops then, I think they're under special operations command just like SF so you should be working pretty close to them, plus from what I understand they still do all the high speed **** like airborne and pathfinder, ect. That would transfer over to a marketing type career as a civilian. POG is person other than grunt= not infantry. 26 shouldn't be bad at all, I think its 30 is the cutoff, but again if they like you they'll bend the rules for you.
Theres alot of good info here. How close are you to any post? I was a 68W, medic, and reclassed to 68g, hospital administration. I know I know, hospital stuff, not really fun sounding eh? I loved the medic part of it, administration isn't all hype of glory, but its a great job skill for retirement. If you pick something like 68WM6 (skill identifier) then you can go from enlisted to officer through the AMEDD programs-its a different side of the officer corps, basically only medical. Try also, if you want to go officer side, talking to an Amedd recruiter. The medical services corp may be able to use the business admin and place it as hospital admin. Again, not glory jobs, but def great experience in life.
In the end, you'll have to find a job that you enjoy, that you can put up with, and realize that each one has their own version of suck. My job is not a physical "suck" because very rarely do people get broken in this job, but the mental stress sometimes is "suck". Maybe just the opposite for a 13B...alot of physical stress and being broken, but not as much mental fatigue. who knows...and yes NCOs lead the way
In the end, you'll have to find a job that you enjoy, that you can put up with, and realize that each one has their own version of suck. My job is not a physical "suck" because very rarely do people get broken in this job, but the mental stress sometimes is "suck". Maybe just the opposite for a 13B...alot of physical stress and being broken, but not as much mental fatigue. who knows
...and yes NCOs lead the way
There is definitely a lot of good info here and i really appreciate everyone who has come into the thread to help out! Keep it coming guys!
08-26-2010, 12:45 PM
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Im just throwing this out there for you...take it or leave it.
The Marines will take you with a possession of 5 grams no problem...expunged or not. Also since you have a degree its mandatory that if you talk to a Marine recruiter that they have the Officer Selection Office screen you out for Officer Candidate School.
Once you pass OCS (if you get selected or accept it) you choose air, ground or law.
Obviously air is pilots, ground is pretty much upper level management / policy writers and law is obviously Jag officers.
Eitherway if you can go officer in any branch, do it. It pays better, you get better treatment ect ect. Just dont be a dbag officer that thinks hes ******* king **** because he went to college and treat your troops like men and they will respect you.
Thats all I got. Good luck in whatever you choose.
The Marines will take you with a possession of 5 grams no problem...expunged or not. Also since you have a degree its mandatory that if you talk to a Marine recruiter that they have the Officer Selection Office screen you out for Officer Candidate School.
Once you pass OCS (if you get selected or accept it) you choose air, ground or law.
Obviously air is pilots, ground is pretty much upper level management / policy writers and law is obviously Jag officers.
Eitherway if you can go officer in any branch, do it. It pays better, you get better treatment ect ect. Just dont be a dbag officer that thinks hes ******* king **** because he went to college and treat your troops like men and they will respect you.
Thats all I got. Good luck in whatever you choose.
08-26-2010, 08:02 PM
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I feel as though since the Army has been at war discipline has faltered somewhat and people use the deployment cycle as an excuse. I blame the NCO's or even the fast promotion rate on this. The Army is using promotions to help retention and it is doing nothing but hurting the service in the long run.
08-30-2010, 11:52 PM
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My 02 about those that are saying that PSYOPS is close to the same as Special Forces, they are not even in the same league. I am not saying that one is more important than the other because it takes all MOSs to win the war, but we have to very very different jobs. No Team guy will ever call Airborne or Pathfinder a high-speed school. If you are really looking for something along the lines of SF or Rangers than I think you will be disappointed with PSYOPS. I know some people love being in PSYOPS but generally it is a different type of person who does SF vs PSYOPS. And for the guys who said you need to be a 11b to make it past selection they dont know what they are talking about. Plenty of non combat arms guys make it through Selection and go on to be geat SF dudes.
09-24-2010, 07:41 PM
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Well, look at all your options..and check across the other branches to see all your offers..
Just my .02... I jumped into a heavy track slot..I don't regret it..but, i have worked with many -many dumbasses..
Just my .02... I jumped into a heavy track slot..I don't regret it..but, i have worked with many -many dumbasses..
