prior service to officer question?
04-18-2006, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by StoleIt
Hmm I'll ask her again, but when I was talking to her thats what she was making it sound like. She told me she wants to retire at 45, which would have her at 26 years total, 20 af officer, 6 army enlisted.
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04-18-2006, 05:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Legend
No Army school that I've attended (Drill Sergeant school included)compares to that b.s. in OCS.
04-18-2006, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
No they dont because in officer training they are enlisted so upon commission they have the extra day plus some to make the 4 year 1 day cut for oe1
I think your trying to say that the school time counts as enlisted time. That's true for those covered under a scholarship, but that does not apply to a direct accessions school time.
Originally Posted by Slilock
To the original poster factor this in also. You must serve at least 4 years and 1 day as a Enlisted person or a Warrant Officer to receive O-E pay which is pretty much more in base pay and BAH compared to O-1 pay. However the key is to get that one day, if you just do 4 years Enlisted/WO then you don't qualify.
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04-18-2006, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
Umm.. is it just me or did you disagree with me then repeat my exact point
I think your trying to say that the school time counts as enlisted time. That's true for those covered under a scholarship, but that does not apply to a direct accessions school time.
Exactly what I said, but for some reason I was wrong
I think your trying to say that the school time counts as enlisted time. That's true for those covered under a scholarship, but that does not apply to a direct accessions school time.
Exactly what I said, but for some reason I was wrong
04-18-2006, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
That does not only cover scholarships, but also prior service collage grads that want to go back in. Once they serve the 1st day of OCS (while in OCS you are an enlisted member) then they met the 4ry 1 day requirement. Maybe I did just repeat what you said.
A good friend was caught by this, which is the original reason I brought it up. Fortunately, from the post above it appears cb94ta has this covered.
04-18-2006, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by WILWAXU
Some people have got out on "early outs" as long as 12 months depending on what was happening at the time. The few weeks in OCS won't make up that amount of time
A good friend was caught by this, which is the original reason I brought it up. Fortunately, from the post above it appears cb94ta has this covered.
A good friend was caught by this, which is the original reason I brought it up. Fortunately, from the post above it appears cb94ta has this covered.
04-18-2006, 09:58 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
Sine when is this?? Last I checked any federal service counts toward a federal pension, regardless of what part of the federal government you work for ie.. post office, army, navy, AF, Army civilian employees. Found this on the net
Air Force and Army members with over 20 years service are all classified as retired, and receive retired pay.
To me it sounds like this CPT you know has no clue what she is talking about. 20 years of service PEIORD gets you a pension.
Air Force and Army members with over 20 years service are all classified as retired, and receive retired pay.
To me it sounds like this CPT you know has no clue what she is talking about. 20 years of service PEIORD gets you a pension.
negative, if you have broken service, your time indeed does restart. at least with what i've seen in the Marines. and i don't mean a couple weeks broken service. i'm talking a few years. however, many Marines still keep their rank if they can run a 1st class pft and such..
04-19-2006, 07:21 AM
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Originally Posted by sgt0704
negative, if you have broken service, your time indeed does restart. at least with what i've seen in the Marines. and i don't mean a couple weeks broken service. i'm talking a few years. however, many Marines still keep their rank if they can run a 1st class pft and such..
04-19-2006, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by brad8266
No it does not, regardles of branch of service. Once you complete the years of service it does not go away, ever. PERIOD. You will always have those years of sewrvice counting toward your total years of service.
i guess i must have miss stated, yes you keep your "time" but for retirement purposes, you lose that time. for instance, a SSGT i used to work with, he got out after his first four, for about four years. came back in. he would have 24 years of actual service by the time he retired at "20" instead of retiring at 16 plus his previous four to get 20.
04-19-2006, 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by sgt0704
i guess i must have miss stated, yes you keep your "time" but for retirement purposes, you lose that time. for instance, a SSGT i used to work with, he got out after his first four, for about four years. came back in. he would have 24 years of actual service by the time he retired at "20" instead of retiring at 16 plus his previous four to get 20.
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04-19-2006, 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by sgt0704
i guess i must have miss stated, yes you keep your "time" but for retirement purposes, you lose that time. for instance, a SSGT i used to work with, he got out after his first four, for about four years. came back in. he would have 24 years of actual service by the time he retired at "20" instead of retiring at 16 plus his previous four to get 20.
.Now, using your example, I think this is more likely what happened: The SSGT didn't loose his time in service, but he was required to serve a certain number of years of consecutive time on active duty for retirement (can't remember the exact number is right now).
04-19-2006, 09:24 PM
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Well the recruiter emailed me back and told me its 20 years federal active service PERIOD. Does not matter if there was a break or whether you were an officer or enlisted.
04-20-2006, 09:55 PM
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i get it. it's one of those things where you're determined to be right. it's cool. i'm not saying the recruiter is wrong, but they're not always right. i'm just speaking from what i've had experiences with in the past. but it's just like the Corps zero tolerance for drugs, yeah, it's not really zero. i know a Marine that got to stay in. what kind of **** is that?
04-21-2006, 12:17 AM
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Hah I'd like to know too. I know a SSgt that went to his first OCS drill (Guard) and told me that if I wanted to take the Officer path, ROTC was the way to go. He gave me a funny look when I asked him how his drill went.