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Old 11-07-2008, 08:54 PM
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Face it 25psi... The GTR is not only inferior and way over priced ... it's not even in the same leaque... I'm sorry, I know the truth hurts.


Poor widdle bitty GTR.


Porsche accuses Nissan GT-R of cheating the 'Ringhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/p...ting-the-ring/

ZR1 Drag Race King - Spanks GTR, 599, and GT2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZlGMX8G3B4

Did Godzilla Lie? Porsche Cries Foul Over Record Nissan GT-R 'Ring Time
http://wot.motortrend.com/6290623/au...ime/index.html


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Originally Posted by bearcatt
Face it 25psi... The GTR is not only inferior and way over priced ... it's not even in the same leaque... I'm sorry, I know the truth hurts.


Poor widdle bitty GTR.


Porsche accuses Nissan GT-R of cheating the 'Ringhttp://www.autoblog.com/2008/09/30/p...ting-the-ring/

ZR1 Drag Race King - Spanks GTR, 599, and GT2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZlGMX8G3B4

Did Godzilla Lie? Porsche Cries Foul Over Record Nissan GT-R 'Ring Time
http://wot.motortrend.com/6290623/au...ime/index.html


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This has been beaten to death. You're right the truth hurts.




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Originally Posted by 25psi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1xwcd7eNeto

The GTR is more consistent and is easier to achieve better times. If you go on over to the Corvetteforum, the top 10 list goes from 11.2-12.5 with mph ranging from 118-129(stock).
i can show you plenty vids of zo6s stomping gtrs.. the zo6 is faster.. period..
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Originally Posted by lemons12
i can show you plenty vids of zo6s stomping gtrs.. the zo6 is faster.. period..
Read my friend. I never said the GTR was faster. I said it is more consistent and will put down better times 8/10 at the track.
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^ you sir are an idiot and have no basis for your assumptions, show us proof....
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To each his own. I appreciate both cars!
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
^ you sir are an idiot and have no basis for your assumptions, show us proof....
Look on the page before this one. That is one instance.

If you look at the current top 10 fastest C6Z's, you will see a difference in 1.5 seconds and 10mph. The GTR's trans is similar to an auto, so.........you will receive more consistent times. I mentioned my neighbors GTR awhile back, in which he ran a 11.67, 11.72, 11.70(lc) at 119-121. With out launch control, he managed 11.9, 12.0x and 12.2(i think).

Basically you're insisting that an auto ls1 is not more accurate than a 6 speed.
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Read my friend. I never said the GTR was faster. I said it is more consistent and will put down better times 8/10 at the track.
its more consistent because its basically an auto.. of course manual drivers cant be as consistent...


zo6 is faster, on average (granted with a half assed driver).. and overall..

it will walk circles around a gtr..
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Originally Posted by lemons12
its more consistent because its basically an auto.. of course manual drivers cant be as consistent...


zo6 is faster, on average (granted with a half assed driver).. and overall..

it will walk circles around a gtr..
It will not run circles around a GTR. The average lc GTR will run 11.5-11.7 at 121mph, which is enough to hold any Z06 through the 1/4. I suggest you read the Corvetteforum and see how many C6Z owners that are fortunate to own both cars.
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Originally Posted by 25psi
It will not run circles around a GTR. The average lc GTR will run 11.5-11.7 at 121mph, which is enough to hold any Z06 through the 1/4. I suggest you read the Corvetteforum and see how many C6Z owners that are fortunate to own both cars.
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...ile_123369.htm

looks like circles to me.. and no 11.5 from what i have seen is not avg for those cars..
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stock C6 z06 on drag radals street tires 10.8@129mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=469NvIOiz7U
Same Stock C6 z06 on factory tires 11.2$127mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-Fq...eature=related

Just think what the Zr1 will do with a good driver!
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Didn't Ranger hit a 10.98 on the runflats?
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Originally Posted by lemons12
http://videos.streetfire.net/video/S...ile_123369.htm

looks like circles to me.. and no 11.5 from what i have seen is not avg for those cars..
11.5-11.8 is average with lc. Ive already posted several instances in which they do so.
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Originally Posted by SIC LSX
stock C6 z06 on drag radals street tires 10.8@129mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=469NvIOiz7U
Same Stock C6 z06 on factory tires 11.2$127mph
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-Fq...eature=related

Just think what the Zr1 will do with a good driver!
Radials are not stock. And I did not say that GTR was faster, I said it was more consistent and will put down better times 80% of the time. It is not easy to drive the Z06 to constant 11.5's-12.0 without major wheel hop.

You're given me instances of what very few Z06 owners have done. The average Z06 time is not 11.2 or 11.5, it's more in the lines of mid to low 12's.
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GTR get OWN3D!!!!!!
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Don't get me wrong, I like Corvette more than GTR, but I need to make a few points:

This is about bang-for-the-buck. The reason we all drive LSx is because it's the new Foxbody. If this was ten years ago, half of us would be driving around 5.0's.

The ZR1 is faster, yes, but it also more expensive. It's a half-victory.

This test should have been Z06 vs GTR

And next year it should be ZR1 vs V-Spec

Don't get me wrong, I think the Z06 could still take the GTR, and I'm confident that the ZR1 will take the V-Spec, but I think that would be a more apples to apples comparison. I mean, c'mon, I want to see a 60 grand American car stomping on a 100 grand Japanese car just as much as the next guy.

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Originally Posted by 25psi
Radials are not stock. And I did not say that GTR was faster, I said it was more consistent and will put down better times 80% of the time. It is not easy to drive the Z06 to constant 11.5's-12.0 without major wheel hop.

You're given me instances of what very few Z06 owners have done. The average Z06 time is not 11.2 or 11.5, it's more in the lines of mid to low 12's.
You kidding me, I have only seen C6Z06s run mid-low 12s at really high da's. I have seen several gtrs run high12s to low 13s, car and driver had one that could only do high 12s at 112-114 Talk about an inconsistent slow pos....
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Originally Posted by capn smokey
You kidding me, I have only seen C6Z06s run mid-low 12s at really high da's. I have seen several gtrs run high12s to low 13s, car and driver had one that could only do high 12s at 112-114 Talk about an inconsistent slow pos....
You can not hop in a Z06 and expect to run low 11's. You're a fool if you think so.

Ranger..........11.223......@127.16mph C6Z06--New Best Bone Stock on Stock Tires 11.22 127.16
Dr. Ron.........11.242 ......@122.38mph ***11.24@122.38 w/a 1.688 60' bone stock***
BLU-BY-U.....11.311.....@122.89mph showroom stock pass #4: 11.311
dgdoc…........11.45...@125.92 mph http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2z-acDftyF4
layjzay....11.45 ...@124 mph
C5Frank ......11.48 .....@126.23
JeffM….........11.49 C6Z06--New Best Bone Stock on Stock Tires 11.22 127.16
Steve Row....11.50 C6Z06--New Best Bone Stock on Stock Tires 11.22 127.16
JP7..............11.54 C6Z06--New Best Bone Stock on Stock Tires 11.22 127.16
MikeSiska..........11.55....@127mph C6Z06--New Best Bone Stock on Stock Tires 11.22 127.16
dpracing '07 11.55 .....@123.4Xmph
Andi...11.641...@126.10mph Another Stock C6 Z06 on Stock Tires... 11.6@126
Chris@East Coast Supercharging...11.69 ..@123.25mph http://forums.corvetteforum.com/show...3&postcount=37
atomicfusion..11.7029...@119.65mph
LPFSTheFett..11.7089....@121.99mph
JWGJR.....11.7.......@123mph
Blitz_ ......11.878...@123.76mph



The fastest stock GTR so far is an 11.44 at 124 which would place it 4th on that list.

You're a baffon if you believe a GTR runs 112 traps. Car&Driver ran a low mph since they where having issues with the car.

Motortrend-11.6 122 recently
Edmunds- 11.8 at 121
Car&Driver 11.7 at 121
TopGear 11.9 at 120
etc.....

Individual test have confirmed that the average GTR runs mid 11's using launch control and high to 11's low 12's without. I suggest you watch more videos if you think they run 13's.

Here's what a C6Z owner had to say. He owns both cars:

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/othe...d-pics-14.html


http://www.vimeo.com/1813573 same car as above!

Heres the time slip with the GT-R..... and a video... My friend missed me doing 11.5 @ 121.7. I wasn't really mad at all he was filming for our annual shootout and had to shoot so many cars for the night. When we ran the 11.5 he had stepped away for a minute to get something to eat. He felt bad. Hey maybe somebody else caught a vid of that pass as there were others filming and it will probably will show up...somewhere. They usually do good runs or bad.

BTW they started a Fast list over on the GT-R site. Right now Michaels 11.5 run is the fastest stock GT-R time so far.....look out Ranger


So the best time caught on vid was the 11.6 @ 120.7 run.

As you can see by the video It was spinning pretty bad, which indicates this car has a little more in it. Looking back we should have let some tire pressure out of it but the tires are filled with Nitrogen and at the time we didn't want to mess with them.

BTW if your wondering Michaels nick name in the car club is EVOMIKE because of the drag Evo we had.
His time slip is located in the link!
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Radials are not stock. And I did not say that GTR was faster, I said it was more consistent and will put down better times 80% of the time. It is not easy to drive the Z06 to constant 11.5's-12.0 without major wheel hop.

You're given me instances of what very few Z06 owners have done. The average Z06 time is not 11.2 or 11.5, it's more in the lines of mid to low 12's.
you do know that c5zo6s run low 12s on average at about 118ish correct..

c6zo6s run mid to low 11s at 123ish..



again, gtr on the DRAG STRIP isnt much competition for the c6s.. GIVEN THAT THE PERSON IN BOTH CARS CAN DRIVE FOR TWO *****...
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Originally Posted by lemons12
you do know that c5zo6s run low 12s on average at about 118ish correct..

c6zo6s run mid to low 11s at 123ish..



again, gtr on the DRAG STRIP isnt much competition for the c6s.. GIVEN THAT THE PERSON IN BOTH CARS CAN DRIVE FOR TWO *****...
You still are not understanding that the average Z06 owner does not run mid to low 11's. This is why Im saying that the GTR will be more consistent and will allow for better times at the track. Unless you have two equal drivers(most likely will not be the case) the GTR will win 8/10. Again, I know the Z06 is faster, but this will not show 100% at the track.



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