I am a huge GM guy, just come look in my driveway....But competition is good for consumers. That said I still like watching stangs get beat.

 

I'm wondering if I stripped everything out of and on my car (including the side mirrors like that GT), and added slicks if I could get into the 10's with a tune and a full exhaust?

 

The car was running race gas and 400lbs of weight reduction with the ten second pass. They are also using an aftermarket clutch. For those calling this a bolt on car in the 10's...that sure is a stretch in my opinion.

I believe the car went 11.2 without the weight reduction...but im not sure on the race gas or not. A lot of details havent been confirmed and I havent cared to look into it much. I suspect that when they went to the "aggressive tune" they were using the 100 octane race gas.

Either way...the car is moving. The best I have seen a new camaro go cam only is 11.3 @ 122. Full weight, stock clutch and stock rear end. I am not sure if it was pump gas or race gas (I think it was pump gas). LG motorsports car...it also went 11.8 @ 118 exhaust and tune. Evolution went 12.0 @ 117 with exhaust and tune on the 2011 GT. Before those state that the GT had no cold air intake...dont hold your breath...a few of the results from the aftermarket CAIs for the GT are actually showing a power decrease under the curve with an actual loss in torque.

When comparing evolution to a lot of private owners it may seem the GT is walking away from the camaro. But this is just not the case. Fact of the matter is when you compare apples to apples ( LG vs Evolution) the camaro is still very much in the game.

Looks like the GT is right with the camaro even when the modding starts. But those who say it is just spanking the camaro couldnt be more wrong/misinformed.

Nice job Ford

 

i think the side mirror delete is kinda tacky but its still a badass run. sounds sick too. i hope this stang has a better aftermarket for heads/cams, if they are worth it that is.

 

So where is the Camaro 10 sec run with weight reduction? oh with no cam? sorry you brought that on your self ....

 

Thats my point.

No one has done it, well at least no one like this or that we know of...but that doesnt mean it cant be done.

11.7 is currently one of the best bolt on full weight times (on the whopping 30 people on the fast list at camaro5). Done by just an average joe...not a performance shop with 100's of passes, tons of money etc etc.

Got any links to a place that has done this kind of extensive testing and tuning with a 5th gen camaro day after day after day after day with similar mods etc? For god sakes they blew out the stock clutch after the first 13 passes. Nothing they are doing will be very easily achievable by any average person.

Add some race gas and a race gas aggressive tune to it and pull out 400 lbs. High 10's wouldnt be out of the question in good conditions looking at the starting point of 11.7 from average joe. The 400 pounds alone would get the car down to 11.2-11.3 in theory...I think some race gas and an aggressive tune could get a couple more tenths.

Thanks for helping me make my point.

 

He made your point?

 

I agree, depending on what actually Evolution has done to the car as far as weight reduction. This is not just a "bolt-on car" Evo has been working on, they have been testing it for the past month making tons of passes. I'm not sure why nobody has put this much work into the Camaro, but there is no reason it wouldn't compete with this car with the same effort.

I'm also not a huge fan of weight reduction. Installing lightweight high performance parts is one thing, but to start gutting the car just isn't a very good indication of what the car is actually capable of from a performance stand point out of the box. It's going to leave 5.0 owners thinking they will be running low 11's at 120+ with bolt-ons, which will not be the case at all.

 

Umm What is your source? Nothing absolutely NOTHING has been released about this car yet until the new 5.0 mustang magazine comes out. They have a contract with Evolution on being the first source to release the info about whats done to the car. Nobody knows for sure everything thats done to it yet except for them

 

You can beat this horse to death, but the fact is its a fast car in its class. In the hands of the right person it will drag alot of cars, just wait and see if you will be one of those people.

 

Regardless of what all the haters or fanboys say, 10 seconds on a car so new most people can't get their hands on it is impressive.

The 5.0 is back and has some serious potential. I don't understand all the hate fellas, it's this type of competition that makes our hobby great. Besides, at least Ford designed it, built it and warranties it without a dime of taxpayer money. Think about that when GM is beating their chest about 100,000 mile warranties.

Besides, it's about time Ford stepped up to beat Chevy. I like knowing the new blue oval is faster than the new Camaro. It stirs things up.

The bar has been raised. Chevy, it's your move.

 

well im glad ford finally is able to put something in the 10's n/a without having to invest about 12k....ill stick to my ls motors look forward to seeing what the ls3 in the ss camaro does with the similiar mods.

 

What makes a difference if it's N/A or not? If you use LARGER/HEAVIER engine and displacement instead of a lighter smaller one with a blower. Both are using something to their advantage.

The lighter blower car will more than likely handle better as well.

As from what I am hearing about the new v6 vs the 5.0.

 

Personally, I believe that this car is extensively modified...much more than the mod list
that will be published. There are "certain shops" that tend to forget to list mods.
"Ooops! We forgot about that 50 shot and that the interior was gutted."

 

I'm not sure what you're talking about. Is the 5.0 somehow heavier than the 4.6 with a blower? I'd like to see those specs. Can you post them for me?

I would think the 5.0 would be lighter than a blown 4.6 due to having less components. Sure, there's .4 more liters of displacement, but I don't think that would make that much difference in weight. Besides, the blown 4.6 had a forged bottom end, right? Weight should be close from NA 4.6 to NA 5.0.

Seriously, where have you ever seen a blower car lighter than an NA car with all other things about the car being equal? Even the ZR1 had to be drastically compensated with carbon fiber to TRY to achieve the 50/50 weight balance the Z06 has because the blower engine weighs more.

 

Who compared the 5.0 vs the 4.6? I mentioned the 5.0 vs the V6 model. Even in MM&FF testing they said the V6 was a better over all track car.
Exactly what specs did I mention?
I don't ever recall saying that. A smaller engine car with a blower is USUALLY lighter than a car with a much larger displacement engine.
I take it the ZR1 has the Z06 engine in it with a blower attached no? Of course it would be heavier. But that's not what I am referring to.

 

Its not that we don't want to be informed. Its just that we can do it on our own. We don't need ford nutswingers saying "Hey you LSX guys should stop modding ur cars and hide cuz you don't stand a chance against 2011 GT's"
Oh No What we all feared has come true. "A fast NA mustang" NNNOOoooooooooooooooooooooo!

 

 

Wow kevin, once again arguing over stupid ****.

 

What mods, ET, '60?