Irisheer

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What you aren't getting is that those Lambos did the 250mph in 1 MILE! Which was just a race to see how fast you can go in 1 mile not overall top speed. The Veyron did a top speed test without a limitation on distance. The Veyron would NOT pull on those Lambos up top unless it had some decent mods as well.

WSsick

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Aero plays a big factor up there, not too mention they could be close to otu of gear at those speeds too. If you have proof of their true top speed outside of 1 mile events, please provide it. I'd love to see that instead of speculation.

No, I actually got it just fine. Your reading comprehension skills just happen to be sub-par. I do understand the 1 mile thing (see bolded below).

Irisheer

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Apparently not, because that IS NOT THE TOP SPEED FOR THOSE LAMBOS!! That was all they could manage in one mile...give them 2 miles and see if the top speed isn't a bit higher.
BTW...my reading comprehension is just fine. I know exactly what you are trying to say, but you are missing something...the 1 mile limit! I'd be willing to bet those Lambos could go another 15-20 mph, at least, for their top speed given enough track to do so.

Powerhouse

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Some people just can't admit when they're wrong.

Tainted

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those lambos would be floating everywhere too. they are a good aerodynamic car, but the veyron was built largely around aerodynamics so no contest as far as top speed.

hell with enough power and jsut enough downforce for the short time you'd need it you could make a pinto be a 200mph drag car but surely not a sustained top speed

Powerhouse

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Huh? The question was how a Veyron would do against these Lambos. I mean, ****, are they suppose to race for 20 miles or something or until engine failure? And there's no doubt these Lambos have a higher top speed than a Veyron and are a hell of a lot faster.

Why is this even being argued.

Tainted

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My reply was in reference to the lambos having a higher top speed than a veyron. I dont think so

Dskeet6

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everyones an engineer......?

1989k1500

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Daaaammmmmnnnnn

This is an internet forum. They are also doctors, police officers, and lawyers.

Tx91z28

because some people are stupid. These lambo's absolutely have a higher top speed than the Veyron.

180ls1

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How do you know that? Has anyone piloted one in excess of 267mph? I remember when the shelby aero was supposed to crush the Veyron but no one would drive it that fast cause it was a deathwish untill they made a lot of changes, even then it was not stable like a veyron.

Tx91z28

they are doing in excess of 250 mph in the standing mile. the veyron does 200-205 in the mile. if you really think the TT Lambos will not reach 267+ you've got to be kidding. Never said they would as stable and comfortable as a veyron at 267+, but they ARE capable of a higher top speed than the veyron. Just wait, someone will eventually break 267 at the mile in a lambo.

as far as aerodynamics, a stock bodied third gen firebird went well over 270mph, i don't think the lambo will be prevented from beating the veyron due to aero...

WSsick

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You are stilling failing to realize that I have said a couple times that the Lambos would definitely win in a shorter, conventional race. Did you miss that? I know very well that the 1 mile MPH does not = their mph, but I'm saying there are factors you are not counting for. Their top speed would DEFINITELY be higher in a 2 mile run, but would it be 18mph higher? I don't know, and neither does anyone else until they do it. That's a good chunk of gear, which is already near the top, and cutting through the air at those speeds gets a lot harder with each mph. Ever seen the speed on a box at those speeds? They are consistently going up, every once in a while they drop ever so slightly a tenth or 2 of a mph.

I know, I wish you could.

Thank you. Nail on head.

The original Veyron topped out at 23x mph, and they found the extra ~20mph in aero, because at those speeds, aero is just as important as power.

Because you are thinking I am saying something that I am not. I never specified how long or short the run was, or that the Veyron would take the race hands down at any speeds under 250, just that it would up top. Hell, I'd love to see this race froma dig.

Prove it. Since you said "absolutely" you should have zero troubles finding concrete proof of it, right?

Wasn't the SSC Aero supposed to go like 275? Stability isn't what we are arguing, but if no one wants to drive it, it can't be the fastest.

You may be right, and when proof arises, I will gladly admit I am wrong. I have no problem doing that. I will admit that chances are they would top out higher, but we don't know that for sure. The first thing I would like to see is where they run out of gear. After that, other assumptions can be attempted simply because if it runs out at 265 (probably doesn't though), the rest of the argument would be obsolete.

Oh, and as for the bold, I wouldn't be surprised one bit. Everyone is misconstruing what I am saying, which is the cause for this continued shitfest.

Irisheer

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Just want to throw this out there...if you google the top speed for a Veyron it's 253mph. I have no idea where 267mph is coming from???
Ok, done arguing.

GTOSE

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Those things are incredible. It's safe to say that a RWD car making the same power won't stand a chance against one of those, purely because of how well those things put the power to the ground.

WSsick

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Just a friendly FYI, the talk was the Veyron Super Sport, not the normal Veyron.

Tainted

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OK!

I have done the research for us! I have taken a *stock* gallardo's egar ratios tire size redline and all that and calculated the top speed for us...

RPM 1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
6500 64 88 115 144 174 201
6600 65 89 117 147 176 204
6700 66 91 118 149 179 207
6800 67 92 120 151 182 211
6900 68 94 122 153 184 214
7000 69 95 124 155 187 217
7100 69 96 125 158 190 220
7200 70 98 127 160 192 223
7300 71 99 129 162 195 226
7400 72 100 131 164 198 229
7500 73 102 132 166 200 232
7600 74 103 134 169 203 235
7700 75 104 136 171 206 238
7800 76 106 138 173 208 242
7900 77 107 140 175 211 245
8000 78 108 141 178 214 248
8100 79 110 143 180 216 251

251mph stock gearing assuming it had the power to pull to that speed (which obviously these do)

So, I dont think these cars have a higher top speed than a Veyron SS, or at least not using stock ratios

Irisheer

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Oh my bad didn't catch that.

180ls1

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see this is what im talking about look at all these things that have came up, its too damn easy to theoritically say it will be done but untill i see it actually happen i am not so sure. I dont understand how some of yall are so damn sure it will go over 267.

I dont disagree that is has the power and aerodynamics to go that fast though.

Tx91z28

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