Stock ZR1 vs Stock Gt500
05-29-2012, 10:27 PM
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Yeah really LOL...it's a good race for a C6 Z06 maybe, but the C6 ZR1 should cover it no problem. Stock versus stock of course.
The quickest bone stock C6 ZR1 has run a best of 10.6@132+mph (quickest bone stock C6 Z06 is 10.9@128+mph) in the 1/4 mile, so until a bone stock 2013 Mustang GT500 matches/beats that then the ZR1 will remain quicker.
An outright top speed race could be a little closer though maybe.
The quickest bone stock C6 ZR1 has run a best of 10.6@132+mph (quickest bone stock C6 Z06 is 10.9@128+mph) in the 1/4 mile, so until a bone stock 2013 Mustang GT500 matches/beats that then the ZR1 will remain quicker.
An outright top speed race could be a little closer though maybe.
05-30-2012, 12:29 AM
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As for a stock ZL1 hitting 200mph sadly it will not unless you mod it but for the guys that plan on modding there cars it won't be to far off.
05-30-2012, 12:40 AM
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[QUOTE=gocartone;16364398]You should really get your **** straight before you go and try to correct other people. The GT500 is rated at 662hp, but has been putting down over 600 at the wheels, which means it's making more power than rated at. Not only that, but like someone else said the ZL1 that went over 200 was FAR from stock, and the GT500 was hitting mid-190s with a DA of over 5000, I would like to see a stock ZR1 hit 200mph in those kind of conditions. Supercharger+lots of heat+going wide open for a LONG period of time=MAJOR heatsoak and loss of power.QUOTE]
i dont know about 600 to the wheels i have seen them put down close to it, in the range of 570 to 585 but never over 600
i dont know about 600 to the wheels i have seen them put down close to it, in the range of 570 to 585 but never over 600
05-30-2012, 03:10 AM
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In other videos they have been dynoing as low as 580rwhp...dynos aren't precision machines, they're tuning tools, and they vary quite a bit.
Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...
Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...
05-30-2012, 03:41 AM
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In other videos they have been dynoing as low as 580rwhp...dynos aren't precision machines, they're tuning tools, and they vary quite a bit.
Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...
Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...
05-30-2012, 06:53 AM
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In other videos they have been dynoing as low as 580rwhp...dynos aren't precision machines, they're tuning tools, and they vary quite a bit.
Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...
Also take into consideration factory HP ratings are an average of the line of engines. Some will be more, some will be less...
05-30-2012, 02:36 PM
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You should really get your **** straight before you go and try to correct other people. The GT500 is rated at 662hp, but has been putting down over 600 at the wheels, which means it's making more power than rated at. Not only that, but like someone else said the ZL1 that went over 200 was FAR from stock, and the GT500 was hitting mid-190s with a DA of over 5000, I would like to see a stock ZR1 hit 200mph in those kind of conditions. Supercharger+lots of heat+going wide open for a LONG period of time=MAJOR heatsoak and loss of power.
How are you not sure?? The GT500 is trapping 10mph higher than the ZL1, that makes for a major *** kicking in a mile race.
How are you not sure?? The GT500 is trapping 10mph higher than the ZL1, that makes for a major *** kicking in a mile race.
05-30-2012, 05:20 PM
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[QUOTE=witry;16365245] Ive seen three dyno at over 600rwhp. Two at over 585rwhp (hot and humid).
On another note, I too would like to see the 13gt500 vs a newer Z06 (and ZR1 for S&Gs)
You should really get your **** straight before you go and try to correct other people. The GT500 is rated at 662hp, but has been putting down over 600 at the wheels, which means it's making more power than rated at. Not only that, but like someone else said the ZL1 that went over 200 was FAR from stock, and the GT500 was hitting mid-190s with a DA of over 5000, I would like to see a stock ZR1 hit 200mph in those kind of conditions. Supercharger+lots of heat+going wide open for a LONG period of time=MAJOR heatsoak and loss of power.QUOTE]
i dont know about 600 to the wheels i have seen them put down close to it, in the range of 570 to 585 but never over 600
i dont know about 600 to the wheels i have seen them put down close to it, in the range of 570 to 585 but never over 600
On another note, I too would like to see the 13gt500 vs a newer Z06 (and ZR1 for S&Gs)
05-30-2012, 07:01 PM
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05-30-2012, 10:41 PM
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What I'm trying to get at is the fact that it's not fair to say "700hp" when talking about the 2013 GT500, even if some may be seemingly close on paper.
Also, I believe there has been a lot of speculation in the past of Ford sending out "factory freaks" to the magazines and testers when they release a new model. Maybe there is some merit to that, maybe not, but just food for thought.
Not trying to bash anything or say it's impossible whatsoever, just providing information and thought from the other side of the spectrum.
05-31-2012, 05:22 PM
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Guy on SVTperf. just ran his 13 GT500 bone-stock in the 1/4 mile to a 11.8x @123mph and with drag radial hit a 11.2x@128.x. 2.0 sixty foot stock and a 1.7 with dr's. This was with a a guy who's known for the "driver mod" too and was in Mississippi, I think (location). So yes this would be a good run for a z06, but a zr1, don't think so.