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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver

Where the **** did I say that mac?

you really don't want to compare a 572 to make your argument look good do you? If you do keep in mind the 454lsxr is the most powerful engine available from gm.

I know the old **** can make power. It don't do it with the finesse of today's engines.....period.
Old school big blocks can easily make 600 to 1000 NA and run just fine.

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MAC is making himself look really stupid.
I was talking to this retard not you but saying BBC cant make more power than the small blocks is retarded bc they have way more potential than any small block period.
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by "MAC"
Old school big blocks can easily make 600 to 1000 NA and run just fine.



I was talking to this retard not you but saying BBC cant make more power than the small blocks is retarded bc they have way more potential than any small block period.
I believe he was referring to the stock ratings of engines 40 years ago.
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 07:12 PM
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Two things I've notice in this thread:

1. Hio once again can't just give a Ford car props and has to destroy yet another thread. Yeah, the other guys jump right in with you but...you are the one that gets the drama going most of the time dude. The car is a 9 second sealed motor 5.0...just give it props and be on your way. You're like a 12 year old girl...

2. Some of the big motors in the late 60's had more power than almost ANY American car coming out today....and said cars could tear it up at the track as well. For those of you who don't think this is true, you need to go do some research.
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bitemark46
And many LSx guys on YB don't believe rob. Rob even says he "guesses" he is at 2800 or lighter.. So what's the number 1 rule in racing/gambling? Always down play your hand. Chances are he is probably much lighter. Or the engine is making more power that a truly sealed LS6 can make. Not my words but other guys from the GM camp are saying this.
I believe the car is lighter as well. The engine? He's been called out on his powerplant before. That didn't go well for his critics.

Oh and don't forget Rob runs at Atco. Where n/a Yogo's can run 13's. That is the fastest track in the country.

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There is no difference between the conditions and times at Atco and MIR.
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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 07:23 PM
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Originally Posted by 408-99-f

I believe he was referring to the stock ratings of engines 40 years ago.
If thats the case then no new is good

Edit: new muscle car engines that is stock for stock

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Old Oct 15, 2014 | 08:40 PM
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Sorry PA94Z. I had to quote you cause Tattoo from Fantasy Island as always took a jab at me since he has no valid point. But he is too dumb to remember he is on my ignore list but yet still addresses what I say. LOL.

Tattoo- Trust me, I will be in the 10's and even 9's before you will. And my first time out with my new setup (ya know "improper") is only 4 tenths behind your "dialed in" drag setup. lol. Loser eats crow challenge.

So go talk to some daycare kids so you can fell like a big dog.

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Lol......just to show what a chump you are for having my quote in your sig since I'm on your ignore list. And no I didn't forget. All I have to do is say something absurd enough for someone to quote and you to read. ....lmao

so much fail in that post......... .4 behind me lmao......with you on a slick....lmao....yea...... Don't foget that 11-13mph down you are to me in that gutted big bad built 5.4.

yea man.....take my worst time out in 4 years to compare your best time to. ...lol

someone quote that **** so biteme can read it. .....lol
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Look at #14 on the list. A very mild car to. Don't be mad about it though.
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Absolutely, to your first question, some of my posts prove that I notice that. Anyone who thinks the 5.0 is completely superior to lets say the LS6 or LS3, is simply a nut slurping fanboy.

You deprecate anything ford on the regular. You can say you don't all you want, you act like a GM fanboy just like some of them ford fanboys.

That last statement in bold, not so much pertains to how I am. Not even close.
I'm really not that bad. ..... These guys spew their bs and I correct it. Hell I have a much nicer ford than any of them. ......figure that out.
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So what one went 9's. None that's right. This same 5.0 has also been faster into the 9.7s
Yea man...... you rocked the **** outta your bolt-on 5bro......whipped the world with it all the way to a 11.6.
Originally Posted by CyberGrey Z28
Is this the same car that had its "gloves coming off" years ago?

All that talk and no results...reminds me of Autofail.
When the gloves came off the tears came out.... If I remember right his goal was 10's na. I wish he was closer to run notch's turdgen pick up truck engined car. Tears would flow like a river then.

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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Yea man...... you rocked the **** outta your bolt-on 5bro......whipped the world with it all the way to a 11.6.


So this is what you do when backed into a corner? No one was talking about this dude's Mustang...stay on track and just accept the fact that you are wrong little guy.
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Old Oct 16, 2014 | 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Look at #14 on the list. A very mild car to. Don't be mad about it though.
I said find me JUST ONE L99 with the same bolt ons as me, that has ran close to my time in similar conditions (DA 1800 ft). My very very average time I should add... Not "Fastest List" worthy by any means.

So you post a LT headers back exhaust, tuned L99 that runs in NEGATIVE DA. It still can't hit my time.... LOL.

Here is his post: http://www.camaro5.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=178

But, But, But... It turns Yo!

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So this is what you do when backed into a corner? No one was talking about this dude's Mustang...stay on track and just accept the fact that you are wrong little guy.
He cannot admit he is wrong... It's pretty sad a 40 year old man cannot admit being wrong.
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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 07:46 AM
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Very close to your time. It ran a 12.4 same as you......and you're probably not gonna find one with your exact mods/day/track prep. My buddy's 5gen went just as fast as your stock time but had 2 mph on you. 5gens will take different mods to make them go. It's retarded to say "have the same mods as me". Different cars want different ****. Match a 5gen's weight and watch your 5bro back up if you really want errything to be equal.
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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by PA94Z
I said find me JUST ONE L99 with the same bolt ons as me, that has ran close to my time in similar conditions (DA 1800 ft). My very very average time I should add... Not "Fastest List" worthy by any means.

So you post a LT headers back exhaust, tuned L99 that runs in NEGATIVE DA. It still can't hit my time.... LOL.
You're not being specific enough. We need to know the color of your car so we can match that too.

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2. Some of the big motors in the late 60's had more power than almost ANY American car coming out today....and said cars could tear it up at the track as well. For those of you who don't think this is true, you need to go do some research.
I can't believe I missed this. How about YOU do some damn research. Those old big displacement, high compression, solid roller, dual quad blah blah engines made impressive power for the day, and that continued up until the end of the century. Even with good tires all those hi-po factory cars were low 13 at best, which is easily eclipsed by a modern base model Camaro or Mustang, and a few 4/6 cylinder imports. The 2001 Z06 will demolish ANY 427 C2/C3.

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
You're not being specific enough. We need to know the color of your car so we can match that too.



I can't believe I missed this. How about YOU do some damn research. Those old big displacement, high compression, solid roller, dual quad blah blah engines made impressive power for the day, and that continued up until the end of the century. Even with good tires all those hi-po factory cars were low 13 at best, which is easily eclipsed by a modern base model Camaro or Mustang, and a few 4/6 cylinder imports. The 2001 Z06 will demolish ANY 427 C2/C3.
Not all...see SIG, I could put an L71, L88, or ZL-1 427 in my Grand Sport and "demolish" ANY 01 C5Z

I do get your point, I love both old and new power.
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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Not all...see SIG, I could put an L71, L88, or ZL-1 427 in my Grand Sport and "demolish" ANY 01 C5Z

I do get your point, I love both old and new power.
No. Old guys...sheesh. Those had poor ETs due to traction issues, but the trap speed which is a better indicator of power, is still severely lacking. Most of the 427 Corvettes were lucky to hit 110mph. A 2001 Z06 could let off at the 1000' marker and still beat the old 427 in both ET and trap speed.
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28
No. Old guys...sheesh. Those had poor ETs due to traction issues, but the trap speed which is a better indicator of power, is still severely lacking. Most of the 427 Corvettes were lucky to hit 110mph. A 2001 Z06 could let off at the 1000' marker and still beat the old 427 in both ET and trap speed.
Not a Grand Sport

They lifted the front tires while racing on a road course!
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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 02:54 PM
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pontiac_GTO

Kinda close to the 4th gen power to weight ratio if you ask me.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plymouth_Road_Runner

Another good example of a powerful car back in the day
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Not even the best of their times, but I thought old cars were slow

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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Not even the best of their times, but I thought old cars were slow

Ultra Rare Camaro ZL1 vs L88 Corvette - 1/4 Mile Drag Race Video - Road Test TV - YouTube


Those are NOSTALGIA STOCK cars. They're HEAVILY modified stock appearing class racers.

And I see "MAC" still understand the gross vs net concept. Most of those 400+ horsepower cars struggle to hit 250rwhp.
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Old Oct 17, 2014 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by HioSSilver
You act like your modded 5bro is doin something a l99/ls3 car cannot. Your not actually. Lightly modded l99 go as fast as you easily. L99 has been as fast as 10.3 cam only
Originally Posted by HioSSilver
Very close to your time. It ran a 12.4 same as you......and you're probably not gonna find one with your exact mods/day/track prep. My buddy's 5gen went just as fast as your stock time but had 2 mph on you. 5gens will take different mods to make them go. It's retarded to say "have the same mods as me". Different cars want different ****. Match a 5gen's weight and watch your 5bro back up if you really want errything to be equal.
My weight is a premium auto car.. over 4000 lbs raceweight. I think we are pretty even..

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You're not being specific enough. We need to know the color of your car so we can match that too.
You guys don't think that is a unfair comparison? I mean you had to go dig up a "Fastest list",.. and the car you are comparing has more modifications - Longtube headers can easily add 20+ rwhp, and ran in 2000 FT better DA. Not to mention he ran slower..

Wish I had a negative DA run.. we would then be adding a 4K stall and slicks to that same car and having this same discussion about how it's a fair comparison
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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28



Those are NOSTALGIA STOCK cars. They're HEAVILY modified stock appearing class racers.

And I see "MAC" still understand the gross vs net concept. Most of those 400+ horsepower cars struggle to hit 250rwhp.
That has a lot to do with the drive train and the carb tech of the old days. I fully understand what your saying. Thats old tech you can update it pretty easily with out opening the engine and it would be a night and day difference. In the rwhp numbers. The tire tech back in the day is what really killed there performance numbers tbh.


Marc you are making a valid point as well. But those two cars in the vid the L88 Vette and the ZL1 69 Camaro they where street cars but limited production. Kinda like the new Z28 and the Zr1 C6 Vette. Per say.

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Originally Posted by Marc 85Z28


Those are NOSTALGIA STOCK cars. They're HEAVILY modified stock appearing class racers.

And I see "MAC" still understand the gross vs net concept. Most of those 400+ horsepower cars struggle to hit 250rwhp.
Factory solid lifter cams, factory compression ratio, factory heads.

Yup, heavily modified. Even in the early 70's, on the shitty rubber they had, guys were turning low 11's and high 10's with ZL-1s, with nothing more than a tire and uncorking the exhaust. Keep your blinders on buddy.

My Grand Sport will DEMOLISH any stock C5Z you can bring my way, 1/4 mile, road course, doesn't matter. And my car is 500lbs heavier than the 5 originals
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Originally Posted by NW-99SS
Factory solid lifter cams, factory compression ratio, factory heads.
No, no, and no.

Yup, heavily modified. Even in the early 70's, on the shitty rubber they had, guys were turning low 11's and high 10's with ZL-1s, with nothing more than a tire and uncorking the exhaust. Keep your blinders on buddy.
High 10s?

My Grand Sport will DEMOLISH any stock C5Z you can bring my way, 1/4 mile, road course, doesn't matter. And my car is 500lbs heavier than the 5 originals
You have a newer generation BBC with significantly more displacement. Can you show me ANY old production car that ran low 12s or better at 115 or better? Keep in mind the 01 Z06 I brought up is old tech ,and modern cars (which was the original argument) are far faster.

Just 20 years ago a low 12 second street car was considered fast. The only BB cars doing that had a Holley swap, aluminum intake, headers, steeper gears and slicks.
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