LT1 vs. DSM
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Originally Posted by Skull *****
Yeah i still have more mods to this day, which is probobaly why i'm faster, or with some good tires, that lt1 would be in the 12's too, but that good old rear might be a problem. Oh yeah, my car had a clutch also act 2100.
But still the lt1's seem very unimpressive unless they have internal work, which then they have great potential.
But still the lt1's seem very unimpressive unless they have internal work, which then they have great potential.
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Originally Posted by Excal
show me a dsm with or less money in mods that outruns a lt1 (a cutout is a 35$ investment) Thank you for proving my point. I can show you DSMs breaking trannys before making a 13.4 pass though. **** even VR4s lol.
a stock lt1 can run a 12.4 it's called RX7. I'm figuring about that since a stock ls1 did 11s already.
This is impressive, (buying the same exact parts that run up others MUCH more for supposedly less) not taking out a traction less cutout car.
i can have a $2000 car for free, don't have **** to do with performance though.
a stock lt1 can run a 12.4 it's called RX7. I'm figuring about that since a stock ls1 did 11s already.
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This is impressive, (buying the same exact parts that run up others MUCH more for supposedly less) not taking out a traction less cutout car.
i can have a $2000 car for free, don't have **** to do with performance though.
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Actually the green LT1 in the video was purchased for $7k if i recall. While my dsm was $900. I've had no electrical problems what so ever and no issues with crank walk. The big issue with the crankwalk in '95 was, that was when they stoped making talons and eclipses in the Diamond MotorSports factory and started to use a USA spec for the bottom ends. Mitsubishi tried to lighten up the bottom end of these "2nd gen 7bolt engines" and in result they had a problem with the thrust bearing which can possibly initaily end up damaging the crank. I my selft have not expeirienced any of these problems with the car in the video or the other 3 dsm's i've owned prior. The reason every one thinks they are POS's is because most people put parts on them and beat the hell outa them. A 12 yr. old car requires some maintainence. But as for the tranny insight, yes my 2nd and 3rd gear snycro's are starting to give me trouble but i still don't think that's bad for original trans with 151,5**miles.
I'm sure bolt on lt1's run 11's with ease, but my dsm is doing mid 12's with ease on a tired 151,000 mile engine, trans, and STOCK TURBO...full interior.
I'm sure bolt on lt1's run 11's with ease, but my dsm is doing mid 12's with ease on a tired 151,000 mile engine, trans, and STOCK TURBO...full interior.
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Originally Posted by Savageite
Yea they defintally have there problems but they are cheap to make fast. The car in the video now runs 12.4 @ 110 and he has spend less then 5 grand on it counting the cost of the car.
If you want to go fast put a SBC in an old 280z. $5k you'll be sitten with really really fast car....what 1200lbs in the rolling chassis? still a car minus looks, class and charisma. anybody can have a car with with a hoss of a motor, but what are we goin for? race car? daily driver? show/street/strip?
^^POINT.
My LT1 will run him....i got A "bolt on" in the mail as we speak.
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Originally Posted by Johns96SS
Yalll forget the main point, it's still a f'in DSM.
If you want to go fast put a SBC in an old 280z. $5k you'll be sitten with really really fast car....what 1200lbs in the rolling chassis? still a car minus looks, class and charisma. anybody can have a car with with a hoss of a motor, but what are we goin for? race car? daily driver? show/street/strip?
^^POINT.
My LT1 will run him....i got A "bolt on" in the mail as we speak.
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If you want to go fast put a SBC in an old 280z. $5k you'll be sitten with really really fast car....what 1200lbs in the rolling chassis? still a car minus looks, class and charisma. anybody can have a car with with a hoss of a motor, but what are we goin for? race car? daily driver? show/street/strip?
^^POINT.
My LT1 will run him....i got A "bolt on" in the mail as we speak.
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Originally Posted by Johns96SS
Yalll forget the main point, it's still a f'in DSM.
If you want to go fast put a SBC in an old 280z. $5k you'll be sitten with really really fast car....what 1200lbs in the rolling chassis? still a car minus looks, class and charisma. anybody can have a car with with a hoss of a motor, but what are we goin for? race car? daily driver? show/street/strip?
^^POINT.
My LT1 will run him....i got A "bolt on" in the mail as we speak.
![Nod](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_nod.gif)
If you want to go fast put a SBC in an old 280z. $5k you'll be sitten with really really fast car....what 1200lbs in the rolling chassis? still a car minus looks, class and charisma. anybody can have a car with with a hoss of a motor, but what are we goin for? race car? daily driver? show/street/strip?
^^POINT.
My LT1 will run him....i got A "bolt on" in the mail as we speak.
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Bring your LT1 and your new bolt on. Come get some
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Originally Posted by Skull *****
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Originally Posted by Excal
f-bodys are not canadian, the lt1s and ls1 happened to be assembled there.
Dsms own hondas, as far as MODDED...ANYTHING modded enough owns something NOT modded enough.
"12.4 on street tires?" with AWD is that supposed to be good? there's hondas doing better than that out there sorry.
good job having more mods.
Dsms own hondas, as far as MODDED...ANYTHING modded enough owns something NOT modded enough.
"12.4 on street tires?" with AWD is that supposed to be good? there's hondas doing better than that out there sorry.
good job having more mods.
last time i checked mitsubishi was contracted to make those cars. As for the canadian statement, then we can consider dodge as a mexico company since a high percentage of their cars are made in mexico. Just giving you a little support.