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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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These are both of my buddies cars. The LT1 only had a cutout and an airfoil I beleive at the time. The DSM at a turboback, boost controler, K&N and a fuel pump.
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Old Jun 29, 2004 | 10:55 PM
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That LT1 had a shitty launch.....pretty cool race though, like the color of the Z
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:42 AM
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Well all he has is street tires.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:28 AM
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the dsm launched really nice the camaro cooked them on the first launch too
nice vid
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Well the green Lt1 has had alot more work done to it since that race, but the white stock turbo dsm is still owning it by almost a second at the track. Don't hate on the silly launch, the dsm had street tires too!
DSM OWNS LT1...DSM a true domestic made in USA, not like a Canadian F-body.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 07:51 PM
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Cool vid if they would do it at the track, looks like a dumb place to be racing at. Just my 2cents
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 07:54 PM
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f-bodys are not canadian, the lt1s and ls1 happened to be assembled there.

Dsms own hondas, as far as MODDED...ANYTHING modded enough owns something NOT modded enough.

"12.4 on street tires?" with AWD is that supposed to be good? there's hondas doing better than that out there sorry.

good job having more mods.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:04 PM
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Sorry guys, but he's right. The fastest DSM in the world is 2 tenths faster than the fastest LT1 in the world. While I wouldnt' say they "own" the LT1, they definitely have the record for being faster (John Shepard's 8.7 second E/T at Englishtown in Jersey). However, there are plenty of small block Chevy's running in the low 7s- the motor that the LT1 is directly evolved from. The LT1's intake has proven to be pretty restrictive for the cars in the 9s, and once they go that far the owners almost always swap out their LT1s for stronger SBCs.

Anyway, nice race. DSMs definitely deserve our respect though, guys. Let's not turn this into a flame war.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:20 PM
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Yeah i still have more mods to this day, which is probobaly why i'm faster, or with some good tires, that lt1 would be in the 12's too, but that good old rear might be a problem. Oh yeah, my car had a clutch also act 2100.
But still the lt1's seem very unimpressive unless they have internal work, which then they have great potential.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:23 PM
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"12.4 on street tires?" with AWD is that supposed to be good? there's hondas doing better than that out there sorry.

good job having more mods.
Show me a honda on radial tires with = or less money in mods spent that runs 12.4 and i'd be very impressed. There are all motor honda's running 10's and below, but they put out alot more time and money. DSM's are budget drag cars. It just happens that f-bodies hold their vlaue much better which is a bad thing if your shopping for one.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 08:28 PM
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post it in wmv format
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Skull ****** just thinks he the **** around these parts i geuss.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 09:42 PM
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LT1s have ran 11s bolt ons and 10s stock motor on gas, any plat form has problems. Rather break my 10 bolt than have my crank walk.
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Skull *****
But still the lt1's seem very unimpressive unless they have internal work...
I really hope your not serious....
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:07 PM
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post in wmv format, i cant view the vid damnit
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Old Jun 30, 2004 | 11:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Bizzzatch350
LT1s have ran 11s bolt ons and 10s stock motor on gas, any plat form has problems. Rather break my 10 bolt than have my crank walk.
I lost an engine in a 95 Talon TSI (AWD Turbo 5 Speed) that I bought for my wife due to "CrankWalk"

After that little 4G63 Mitsu engineering defect I don't think I would buy anything else they produced again. I ended up selling it to someone just to get the POS out of my garage lol.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 09:21 AM
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A 95 is the worst year for crankwalk. If you were the to get a 91-92 1st. gen with a 6 bolt you wouldn't have that problem. ALso the car in the video has a 7 bolt with a 150,000 miles and it's still running strong.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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My buddies DSM was a 95, it never crank walked but it had a ton of electrical problems. Car was a major pos, made my car look like a Honda.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 01:02 PM
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Yea they defintally have there problems but they are cheap to make fast. The car in the video now runs 12.4 @ 110 and he has spend less then 5 grand on it counting the cost of the car.
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Old Jul 1, 2004 | 01:45 PM
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Show me a honda on radial tires with = or less money in mods spent that runs 12.4
show me a dsm with or less money in mods that outruns a lt1 (a cutout is a 35$ investment) Thank you for proving my point. I can show you DSMs breaking trannys before making a 13.4 pass though. **** even VR4s lol.

a stock lt1 can run a 12.4 it's called RX7. I'm figuring about that since a stock ls1 did 11s already.

The car in the video now runs 12.4 @ 110 and he has spend less then 5 grand on it counting the cost of the car.
This is impressive, (buying the same exact parts that run up others MUCH more for supposedly less) not taking out a traction less cutout car.

i can have a $2000 car for free, don't have **** to do with performance though.

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