Scion in 12s now... Videos inside!
06-27-2005, 06:20 PM
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Originally Posted by camarochris
12.9 is a long ways away from 12.1 
06-27-2005, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by SebastianLopezJr
Comparing my reaction times at the track to the ones in the Scion vids, it's not that far away...
06-27-2005, 07:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
A gen 3 mr2 turbo will run mid to low 13's, matter of fact, there faster than supras stock. Do a search on 96-99 mr2's. I will post up vid of a stock supra vs stock mr2.
http://www.japmobiles.com/cars/cars_detail.asp?ID=11
Also, where talking about a camaro not vette
http://www.japmobiles.com/cars/cars_detail.asp?ID=11
Also, where talking about a camaro not vette
Here is the only site I found on a quick google search with 96+ MR2 Turbo times:
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/mr2.html
14.7 in the 1/4 mile.
Dont bother posting a video, there is no proof that the car is 100% stock. Try something like a website database.
06-27-2005, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by AMDMotorsport
sl65 amg runs 11's stock on standard tyres
There are quite a few quick AMG cars actually.
06-27-2005, 09:37 PM
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Originally Posted by camarochris
What do reaction times have to do with ET?
For example, in a heads up race if the 12.9 car leaves with a .005 RT and the 12.1 car leaves with a .255 RT, that would give the 12.9 car a .250 advantage right off the hit leaving the margin of victory only .550, with is a lot closer at the top end then a .800 margin of victory. Now if the 12.1 driver had a .805 or worse RT and the 12.9 car had a .005 RT or better, the slower car would win cause the 12.1 driver couldn’t cut a light.
EDIT: That sounded like a damn math lesson or something... sorry.
06-28-2005, 01:48 AM
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Originally Posted by SebastianLopezJr
Well... not with ET, but it has a lot to do with a 12.9 car being "a long ways" to 12.1 car. If you have a 12.9 car vs. a 12.1 car at the track, reaction time could (and usually does) make a difference in the race since there is only .800 second difference between the two.
For example, in a heads up race if the 12.9 car leaves with a .005 RT and the 12.1 car leaves with a .255 RT, that would give the 12.9 car a .250 advantage right off the hit leaving the margin of victory only .550, with is a lot closer at the top end then a .800 margin of victory. Now if the 12.1 driver had a .805 or worse RT and the 12.9 car had a .005 RT or better, the slower car would win cause the 12.1 driver couldn’t cut a light.
EDIT: That sounded like a damn math lesson or something... sorry.
For example, in a heads up race if the 12.9 car leaves with a .005 RT and the 12.1 car leaves with a .255 RT, that would give the 12.9 car a .250 advantage right off the hit leaving the margin of victory only .550, with is a lot closer at the top end then a .800 margin of victory. Now if the 12.1 driver had a .805 or worse RT and the 12.9 car had a .005 RT or better, the slower car would win cause the 12.1 driver couldn’t cut a light.
EDIT: That sounded like a damn math lesson or something... sorry.
Right, but if you're racing somebody heads up that you're TRYING to beat and you cut a .255 light, you need to be slapped lol.
And I wasn't saying a 12.9 car can't beat a 12.1 car, because it can...It depends on all too many variables.
Ie: Shitty reaction time + no traction for 12.1 car = 12.9 car beating 12.1 car.
But comparing ET's which, is what I was doing...12.9 is a big gap from 12.1 IMO...
06-29-2005, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
There are usually a difference between euro-spec cars, and us-spec cars.
Here is the only site I found on a quick google search with 96+ MR2 Turbo times:
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/mr2.html
14.7 in the 1/4 mile.
Dont bother posting a video, there is no proof that the car is 100% stock. Try something like a website database.
Here is the only site I found on a quick google search with 96+ MR2 Turbo times:
http://www.fantasycars.com/derek/cars/mr2.html
14.7 in the 1/4 mile.
Dont bother posting a video, there is no proof that the car is 100% stock. Try something like a website database.
Jspec mr2's come with a 245-255 hp.
Now you tell me, with rear wheel drive, mid engine and 2700lb curb weight they can't run mid 13's?
06-29-2005, 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Jspec mr2's come with a 245-255 hp.
Now you tell me, with rear wheel drive, mid engine and 2700lb curb weight they can't run mid 13's?
Now you tell me, with rear wheel drive, mid engine and 2700lb curb weight they can't run mid 13's?
The numbers sound right, but I have still yet to see proof.
06-29-2005, 08:09 PM
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There are in abundance. You can pick up a gen 3 motor for 3000 plus installation. Trust me I know. I have had 3 mr2's that push in excess of 400hp and 1 with 572 at the wheels.
06-30-2005, 10:07 AM
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Greenbullit. You drive a volkwagen jetta. Voted #1 female car. LOL. That SCION looks pretty impressive sitting next to your VOLKSWAGEN.
"Mullets"
Please dont bash an American Icon that way. F-Body drivers come in all shape and sizes. Doctors, Lawyers, Law Enforcement, Businessmen, ETC. Do you know why because it is a Culture.
People drive Volkswagen to commute and save gas, thats all.
Oh by the way more chicks drive volkswagens. I would much rather have that SCION or CIVIC for that matter. LOL
"Mullets"
Please dont bash an American Icon that way. F-Body drivers come in all shape and sizes. Doctors, Lawyers, Law Enforcement, Businessmen, ETC. Do you know why because it is a Culture.
People drive Volkswagen to commute and save gas, thats all.
Oh by the way more chicks drive volkswagens. I would much rather have that SCION or CIVIC for that matter. LOL
07-04-2005, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by horist
lol at all the bickering in here...
Very Impressive times.. I wonder what the longevity will be...
Very Impressive times.. I wonder what the longevity will be...
Personally it isnt something I would build, but I'm not going to hate on the guy for building it. He is one of the FEW people that can say I have a 12 second scion, how many of us can say we have 12 second camaros/firebirds?
