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Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:19 PM
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Cool car. Lotsa power - but that was a mess.
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:47 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
What I don't understand is why someone would have a car with so much hp it can't make it down the track. A car that can't make it down the track will not set time records, end of story. That's what I was saying.
So wait, are you saying that pretty much every race car on earth has too much power? Pretty sure i've seen all the top fuelers/funny cars/etc. at some point smoke/shake the tires. It's called pushing limits. If you're content running the same times run after run cool, but some people aren't.

Yes, they already have the record for fastest EVO. They will not be setting any more records if the car can't hook for ****. I didn't say I could drive it and get it to stick. I'm saying there's a point of excessive power that a given car can't utilize and can make the car utterly useless, especially when trying to set quarter mile records. I'm not sure how else to say it.
shake-down-run. Say it with me. It takes work to make a car hook well. Nevermind the fact the track prep at Gateway is... crap. Brent Rau hit the wall on Saturday also and he's been running the same rwd Eclipse for as long as i can remember.


I'm not even an AMS fan but seriously people, grow a brain and think about what you're saying. They're not even close the fastest 4g63 powered awd car as much as they'd like you not to notice that.
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by ArcticZ28
What I don't understand is why someone would have a car with so much hp it can't make it down the track. A car that can't make it down the track will not set time records, end of story. That's what I was saying. Yes, they already have the record for fastest EVO. They will not be setting any more records if the car can't hook for ****. I didn't say I could drive it and get it to stick. I'm saying there's a point of excessive power that a given car can't utilize and can make the car utterly useless, especially when trying to set quarter mile records. I'm not sure how else to say it.
You're kinda dense... he said SHAKEDOWN runs. As in testing to work the bugs out so it won't be all over the track like that. I'm sure any car you build will go down the track flawlessly on its first few runs.

Anyway, sweet *** ride, i'd definately drive that in a heartbeat.
Old Jun 8, 2006 | 10:54 PM
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DAMN one scary evo 988 awhp
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 12:13 AM
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Originally Posted by njn63
So wait, are you saying that pretty much every race car on earth has too much power?
Yea, that's exactly what I'm saying. I wish I could go to hike school
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 01:39 AM
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point is guys if ams can make it have that much power im pretty sure theyll be able to make it go straight too. what did u think theyre just gonna leave it like that. they get that bastard to hook some way some how. but damn that thing seemed way too fast i would love to see it actually be able to smash and just go straight.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 01:51 AM
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all wheel hp...damnnn...i dont see why the dam thing woudent hook up in second on slicks! then it will break records...mayb BETTER TRACK PREP!!! doubt a top fuel (6000hp) woulda stuck on that track
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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I don't know what you people are complaining about....Looks to me like he was driving the **** out of that car.
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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 09:22 AM
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Originally Posted by Mavmavv
Wooooo, 988hp and its worthless in the 1/4!
I'd expect that from a supra
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:02 AM
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Originally Posted by thetastelingers
I don't know what you people are complaining about....Looks to me like he was driving the **** out of that car.
Are you the guy that drives a fwd 5 speed car and jerks the wheel while doing your 1st-2nd shift along with every other shift?

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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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I think it's more of car problem than a HP problem. No I don't know a lot about AWD drive cars but if you've got slicks on all four corners what else can do do? Yea you play around with the susp. some but is it really gonna make that much of a difference on a AWD car? I mean it's still not gonna transfer like a RWD will.

Shakedown, driver, AWD, call it whatever you want but the guy made several passes and that thing was blowing the tires away at half track. I don't see them getting that thing to hook up.



Look on the bright side, maybe they'll start a new trend; roll racing from 150.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 12:06 PM
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LOL, Worlds fastest Evo runs a mid 9 second 1/4 mile with 900 odd AWHP. What a freaking joke. Maybe they should ditch the AWD and make it strictly RWD, probably work a little better.

Kids, this is why high dyno peak horsepower numbers are worthless. Stick a peaky boosted car that blows the tires off everytime it hits its narrow little power band with an equally worthless driver, and watch jo schmo with his homebuilt big block walk right by you.

Shakedown runs or not, that was ugly.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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It is really sad to see just how stupid and blind some people on this board are. Now don’t get me wrong I like this board a lot but there are always some bad apples and this threads proves that exact point.

Let me spell this out for the slow kids. Shakedown runs are runs that are either with a new car, setup, or other parts, that have change the demeanor of the car. The reason shakedown runs are done is to see how this untested car runs with the new parts. Very rarely do shakedown runs go smooth with out adjustments and all is done through trial and error. This seems to be eerily similar to what is going on here….weird. Now of course everyone who was bashing this car could easily get the power to hook and knock down a crazy time first try out, I am sure.

So now if some people could read that slowly and let it sink in then this thread wouldn't be filled with such stupidity.

The car previously made around high 700's low 800's AWHP. I will not pretend to know how much power it was making when it went mid 9's as I just don’t know, but it has since obviously made at least 200 AWHP more. The times should reflect the additional HP once the car gets sorted out. So again let's go back to the shakedown theory and try to comprehend.

Now as far as the suspension goes, there are not a lot of options for this car. It can be made to hook but again this takes time, and to the ignorant here, some shitty runs. Shep has made his car hook and run crazy times so it is possible to make a car with that much power hook. This, again, can be know as shakedown runs or testing. Even with AWD a car making this much HP on a fairly small tire, even though it has 4, will be a handful to drive. The only car I know of that is similar in power and setup is Shep and his cars moves around a lot as well so that is normal and part of running at this level.

So please before opening you mouth try and let common sense sink in. I will now prepare for all the awesome, and very intelligent I am sure , ricer comments I am about to receive.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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This thread is full of idiots who are stuck in the 13s... Only a few of you have a half clue.. Nuff said!

Boostin, you can't make most of these people understand ****... They are the people who believed that there was a Novi 2000 Powered F-body with a 200 shot that made 700rwhp that was going to beat a 800rwhp Turbo Mustang Mach 1 (That actually existed, while the Camaro did not).
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by boostedinaz
It is really sad to see just how stupid and blind some people on this board are. Now don’t get me wrong I like this board a lot but there are always some bad apples and this threads proves that exact point.

Let me spell this out for the slow kids. Shakedown runs are runs that are either with a new car, setup, or other parts, that have change the demeanor of the car. The reason shakedown runs are done is to see how this untested car runs with the new parts. Very rarely do shakedown runs go smooth with out adjustments and all is done through trial and error. This seems to be eerily similar to what is going on here….weird. Now of course everyone who was bashing this car could easily get the power to hook and knock down a crazy time first try out, I am sure.

So now if some people could read that slowly and let it sink in then this thread wouldn't be filled with such stupidity.

The car previously made around high 700's low 800's AWHP. I will not pretend to know how much power it was making when it went mid 9's as I just don’t know, but it has since obviously made at least 200 AWHP more. The times should reflect the additional HP once the car gets sorted out. So again let's go back to the shakedown theory and try to comprehend.

Now as far as the suspension goes, there are not a lot of options for this car. It can be made to hook but again this takes time, and to the ignorant here, some shitty runs. Shep has made his car hook and run crazy times so it is possible to make a car with that much power hook. This, again, can be know as shakedown runs or testing. Even with AWD a car making this much HP on a fairly small tire, even though it has 4, will be a handful to drive. The only car I know of that is similar in power and setup is Shep and his cars moves around a lot as well so that is normal and part of running at this level.

So please before opening you mouth try and let common sense sink in. I will now prepare for all the awesome, and very intelligent I am sure , ricer comments I am about to receive.







You can suck my ***** dude. Some of us would rather have, and are more interested in, a car with XXX hp that hooks and goes down the track every time. I'd much rather have a RWD juiced small block with 5, 6, 700hp that runs 9's every time then have some peaky, high hp, AWD car that is damn near impossible to drive. Yea, I've seen Shepperds ride many times, sometimes he runs a 8sec pass and sometimes he doesn't even make it down the track. WOW, impressive That's the kind of car I want to race for money.

If all they're trying to do is get one clean run in to say "We have the highest hp/fastest EVO" then by all means, more power to them.


But you calling everyone here ignorant that's not on their knee's licking the tires on that car is ******* stupid.
Old Jun 9, 2006 | 03:48 PM
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Spinning AWD in 4th is impressive.... Any of the haters would have been in the wall before they would realize what is going on.

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Old Jun 9, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Just like someone else said, it's funny how some guys on here don't give credit where it's due but their car only run 12/13's.
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Originally Posted by COMNBYU
You can suck my ***** dude. Some of us would rather have, and are more interested in, a car with XXX hp that hooks and goes down the track every time. I'd much rather have a RWD juiced small block with 5, 6, 700hp that runs 9's every time then have some peaky, high hp, AWD car that is damn near impossible to drive. Yea, I've seen Shepperds ride many times, sometimes he runs a 8sec pass and sometimes he doesn't even make it down the track. WOW, impressive That's the kind of car I want to race for money.
Wow you are still not getting the point at all.

This was the first three runs this car has made down that track at that power level. Now try and read that REALLY slow. FIRST THREE TIMES. I know for you, the obviously stupid kid, it may be hard to comprehend that a car with over 900 AHWP has a hard time hooking up on it's FIRST three passes especailly down a track known for poor preperation. I bet once they get a few more passes it will be making more consitant and faster passes, but you are so quick to judge an import you just shoot off at the mouth.

Your right only DSM and EVO's and the like have a hard time gettign down the track. Top Fuel, Pro Stock, Real Street, Drag radial, 10.5, and even your typical street car never mess up at the track. Nothing but perfect pass night after night, week afetr week. I bet even you have always made perfect passes while pushing the bounderies of a specific platform and braking records the entire way.

Originally Posted by COMNBYU
If all they're trying to do is get one clean run in to say "We have the highest hp/fastest EVO" then by all means, more power to them.
They already own those titles back when the car was making less power and running mid 9's. They are pushing the evelope to see what the next level is and how far this platform can be psuhed. What is so ******* hard to understand about that?


Originally Posted by COMNBYU
But you calling everyone here ignorant that's not on their knee's licking the tires on that car is ******* stupid.
No it's not. I never once said that everyone should praise this car and bow down to it. I was pointing out your ingnorance and stupidity. In your lame retort you further backed up my theory that you are just spouting out hot air. Obviously YOU and the others who make statements like the ones above ARE ignorant. You seem to be very uneducated as to what shakedown passes are and that trying to make a new car hook with 900 AWHP is not a cake walk, so please continue to back up my theory with you witty retorts.
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Originally Posted by COMNBYU
You can suck my ***** dude. Some of us would rather have, and are more interested in, a car with XXX hp that hooks and goes down the track every time. I'd much rather have a RWD juiced small block with 5, 6, 700hp that runs 9's every time then have some peaky, high hp, AWD car that is damn near impossible to drive. Yea, I've seen Shepperds ride many times, sometimes he runs a 8sec pass and sometimes he doesn't even make it down the track. WOW, impressive That's the kind of car I want to race for money.

If all they're trying to do is get one clean run in to say "We have the highest hp/fastest EVO" then by all means, more power to them.


But you calling everyone here ignorant that's not on their knee's licking the tires on that car is ******* stupid.

12.7@109 and youre clowning the ams evo AND sheps talon?

I can quit the internet finally. I have really ******* seen it all now.
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Tell ya' what, you wanna prove something, post a vid of that car making 10 consecutive clean passes once they dial it in. Then I'll be impressed.

You're missing my point, that's just another Shepperd car, that's it. I noticed you had nothing to say about how inconsistent his car is. That's the way that EVO will always be. It's not personal, it's just the way they've got the car set up. AWD with big peaky hp will never be something that's consistent, and I won't be impressed if that car runs a mid-8 followed by a 14 once they get it dialed in. So sue me if I'm not impressed with, and don't give props to, high hp numbers alone. You know the saying about opinions...



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