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01-03-2007, 10:43 PM
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Originally Posted by fastkars.com
HAHA oh god. HP is a measurement of torque genius. 
I guess power under the curve is useless too, since it doesn't change the outcome when racing from a high mph roll. Just put the largest turbo you can man, it will spool up at 5,500rpms and you can just brake boost and race people from a 70mph roll.
Meanwhile the car that makes power throughout the entire power band is 5000X more enjoyable to drive. Lambo, and Ferrari are stupid for using 5.0L+ 12 cylinder motors; they should be using V6s with huge turbos. Linear power band? That's useless.
I guess power under the curve is useless too, since it doesn't change the outcome when racing from a high mph roll. Just put the largest turbo you can man, it will spool up at 5,500rpms and you can just brake boost and race people from a 70mph roll.Meanwhile the car that makes power throughout the entire power band is 5000X more enjoyable to drive. Lambo, and Ferrari are stupid for using 5.0L+ 12 cylinder motors; they should be using V6s with huge turbos. Linear power band? That's useless.
Your ignorant if you assume that linear power is useless. It doesnt matter if you make power from 5500-9500rpm, you still have more of a power curve than someone with 3500-6200rpm. Most racing is done in higher rpms. So its useless to say I make power from 3000+, when you will never see but one time during a dead stop race!
01-03-2007, 10:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Your ignorant if you assume that linear power is useless. It doesnt matter if you make power from 5500-9500rpm, you still have more of a power curve than someone with 3500-6200rpm. Most racing is done in higher rpms. So its useless to say I make power from 3000+, when you will never see but one time during a dead stop race!
YOU are the one saying linear power is useless by saying that the torque curve doesnt matter, that what shows how linear the power is!
Uh, and BTW I accelerate from 3000RPMs all the time...
01-03-2007, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Hes being sarcastic...
YOU are the one saying linear power is useless by saying that the torque curve doesnt matter, that what shows how linear the power is!
Uh, and BTW I accelerate from 3000RPMs all the time...
YOU are the one saying linear power is useless by saying that the torque curve doesnt matter, that what shows how linear the power is!
Uh, and BTW I accelerate from 3000RPMs all the time...
It doesnt matter if your racing. Your rpms never dip that low anyways, so its useless to say you make power from 3000rpms+
01-03-2007, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by JD_AMG
Hes being sarcastic...
YOU are the one saying linear power is useless by saying that the torque curve doesnt matter, that what shows how linear the power is!
Uh, and BTW I accelerate from 3000RPMs all the time...
YOU are the one saying linear power is useless by saying that the torque curve doesnt matter, that what shows how linear the power is!
Uh, and BTW I accelerate from 3000RPMs all the time...
So your saying you cant have a linear powerband from 4500-9500rpms?
01-03-2007, 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Your ignorant if you assume that linear power is useless.
01-03-2007, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
Your ignorant if you assume that linear power is useless. It doesnt matter if you make power from 5500-9500rpm, you still have more of a power curve than someone with 3500-6200rpm. Most racing is done in higher rpms. So its useless to say I make power from 3000+, when you will never see but one time during a dead stop race!
I've owned both a turbo'd V6 import and domestics, I prefer having power at any RPM at any speed. 
01-03-2007, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by fastkars.com
Your engine spins to 9500rpms? I was being sarcastic about linear power being useless. I am talking about street cars, and making power under the curve is used way more than just in a dead stop race, your ignorant if you believe that's all there is to it. Not to mention the amount of power that can be made on pump gas in a V8 with more displacement. Go ahead and compare a 350Z to a LS1 or Cobra with similar sized turbos and boost. I've owned both a turbo'd V6 import and domestics, I prefer having power at any RPM at any speed.
I've owned both a turbo'd V6 import and domestics, I prefer having power at any RPM at any speed. So I guess you say a grandnational has no powercurve. I really suggest you take a look at a 350z's powercurve. These are not Honda like numbers.
01-03-2007, 10:59 PM
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01-03-2007, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by fastkars.com
Here is a 350Z with a mild turbo upgrade, it gets a lot worse with a bigger turbo.
Here is a dyno graph from a LSX before and after a cam swap
Here is a dyno graph from a LSX before and after a cam swap
There has never NEVER been a turbo 350z with torque that low. Normally the torque exceeds hp on our cars.
01-03-2007, 11:02 PM
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So I guess you say a grandnational has no powercurve.
01-03-2007, 11:04 PM
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There has never NEVER been a turbo 350z with torque that low. Normally the torque exceeds hp on our cars.
http://www.importtuner.com/tech/0406...power_upgrade/
01-03-2007, 11:13 PM
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Originally Posted by 25psi
So your saying you cant have a linear powerband from 4500-9500rpms?
I am just kidding. There is no possible way that some tooth less, stupid, southern hick can get a push rod to rev into the 9K rpm range... can they?
01-03-2007, 11:37 PM
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Another stupid, meaningless argument with 25psi I see. Seems like every post he makes is just to draw out a thread like this. Matter fact a lot of threads on this site are starting to be like this.
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Originally Posted by bdr_ws6
Another stupid, meaningless argument with 25psi I see. Seems like every post he makes is just to draw out a thread like this. Matter fact a lot of threads on this site are starting to be like this.
2005 Red Ferrari Enzo.. is he serious?
01-04-2007, 12:18 AM
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01-04-2007, 03:21 AM
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is it me or does this 25psi guy have a boost leak?
25psi:
how many 8 second street cars that are imports can run pump gas?....i can name a domestic within 10 miles of me that runs 8.70s on 7lbs of boost and is a full body 66 chevelle....this car was in super chevy last year
how can you say displacement does not matter?....if this was true then imports with smaller motors wouldn't need turbo/blowers to force more air into the motor to make up for the lack of cubes...i am sure you know an internal combustion motor is an air pump and the more air you pump in with a little touch of fuel makes power...what import motor comes close to making top fuel car motors power?....NONE....they would need alot more cubes and alot of boost to compete
clarkson is a ******* jackass....she should shove a crumpet back in his bum...maybe he'd feel better...maybe the brits are still flustered over the tea we dumped into boston harbor?...if they are sych great engineers then why did the cars such as a ultima gtr have to use a domestic motor?...i love how he bitches about the zo6's suspension being stiff....duh...its not a luxury car meant for comfort...its meant to go fast as **** around a corner...and guess what...it does!....maybe chevy should offer a british model with a ***** as an option sticking out of the middle of the driver seat
someone needs to spank this ****** with a studded cricket bat
25psi:
how many 8 second street cars that are imports can run pump gas?....i can name a domestic within 10 miles of me that runs 8.70s on 7lbs of boost and is a full body 66 chevelle....this car was in super chevy last year
how can you say displacement does not matter?....if this was true then imports with smaller motors wouldn't need turbo/blowers to force more air into the motor to make up for the lack of cubes...i am sure you know an internal combustion motor is an air pump and the more air you pump in with a little touch of fuel makes power...what import motor comes close to making top fuel car motors power?....NONE....they would need alot more cubes and alot of boost to compete
clarkson is a ******* jackass....she should shove a crumpet back in his bum...maybe he'd feel better...maybe the brits are still flustered over the tea we dumped into boston harbor?...if they are sych great engineers then why did the cars such as a ultima gtr have to use a domestic motor?...i love how he bitches about the zo6's suspension being stiff....duh...its not a luxury car meant for comfort...its meant to go fast as **** around a corner...and guess what...it does!....maybe chevy should offer a british model with a ***** as an option sticking out of the middle of the driver seat
someone needs to spank this ****** with a studded cricket bat