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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:14 PM
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300zx not many because they didnt make that many and 3000GTs lol those are junk.

Those NA car I mentioned are factory spec cars no modding. My car with a SR20DET pushing 16 psi every day from a GT35R making 300 whp lasted 100K then i sold it. Only thing that was replaced when it was apart after 100K was new rings. Motor was perfect.

Guess it depends on the owner.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:30 PM
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Also your crazy if you don't call the GTR a great car. When was the last time Chevy made a High HP car with less Liters. The US's answer to power is always going to be displacement but the rest of the world is far ahead in terms of automotive innovation. This is a 3.8 V6 Twin Turbo car going against a 7L V8.....
Ok our answer most of the time is displacement and the Jap's answer most of the time is TURBO, TURBO, TURBO, AND TURBO.
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 05:33 PM
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Thats funny since the Foreign motor sport companies seem to dominate the US market when it comes to racing. Th simple fact is the US has been stuck with old technology. Image the efficiency the Foreign cars have put into such a larger displacement. Hell they have 2L 4 cylinders putting out over 200 hp. That 100+ hp Per L. How many NA V8s out there that still are fuel efficient can claim that? Or what about the 3L V6 making 300 hp.... Thats NA also.

I feel you take what Im saying incorrectly, Im not saying the ZR1 is slow or anything like that just saying people need to stop bashing the GTR when its making the same power of a 7L Z06 with less displacement. I dont think people who are fans of Foreign cars have a problem saying that US big V8 cars are fast I think its a problem with the Big V8 guys recognizing those "ricer" cars you make fun of can be just as fast.
Do you not understand U.S. Technology Fanboy? All US sport cars are putting out excess 300 HP and still meet these crappy emission laws we have to deal with everyday. Now... Chevy technology... The same pushrod motor since the 60's. No twin cams, no multivalves, and all that bullshit that import engineers worry about. Same pushrod motor, different ways to flow fluid through them, and making more horsepower everytime a better design is released. The result??? LS1/2/3/6/7/9. GM Grand National, Typhoon, Cyclone, Camaro, Corvette, CTS-V, and the latest Trailblazer SS. 13 second cars with "Old Technology". I wish they made a Twin Turbo Corvette for that GTR. The GTR is a great car, but not untouchable by US Technology...
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Old Jan 12, 2008 | 09:51 PM
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Got to love VIR what a great track! That ZR1 looked like it was on rails coming up the ESS.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 12:04 AM
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Originally Posted by LS240sx
Yet again people comparing a 70K car to a 100K car. If you want to make it even spend the extra 30K into the GTR and see who wins. Simple fact is the AWD platform the GTR offers is outstanding for drag and road course purposes.

Not saying the ZR1 is junk cause damn that thing is fast but dont try to bash a car not in its price range; your comparing apples and oranges.
Umm, I think the term, 'run what you brung' applies here.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by 'Trust'
Umm, I think the term, 'run what you brung' applies here.

LoL. . . .I think you 'Trust', are correct.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 02:38 AM
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One question can anyone tell me who wins from a dig? 11.6@120.9 or 10.98@128?


Also how nasty will the *** raping be from a roll, please don't ever say again that the GTR is almost as fast as a C6 Z06.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 02:43 AM
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And you know what? I will take the lighter more powerful car every time, its really ridiculous that the VR38 has all that technology to make less hp and torque have a lower redline, and to top it off a worse powerband.

When the Japaneses or Germans can build an engine that gets 26 mpg on the highway with 505 horses. Have huge low end torque and cammy high rev power and weigh as little and be as compact as the LS7.

Then and only then will fanboys be able to spout off how low tech the LS series is. You can keep your old technology ohc engines if it results in one with the powerband of a Ferrari V8.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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where did those quarter times come from? the GTR isn't even out yet. nobody said the LS is low tech, it's just not high tech. it uses high tech materials though. we all know the smallblock has been basically the same from '60 until the lt1, but thats 30 years of the same motor. how high tech can it be? it's always funny though when a fanboy himself calls someone else a fanboy.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 09:50 AM
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i stand corrected, 11.6 is accurate. but what happens when somebody turns up the boost??? it's only 10 from the factory. i wonder how 16-18lbs would do.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by BoutTime99Z28
but what happens when somebody turns up the boost??? it's only 10 from the factory.
What happens? The same thing that happens when you turn up the boost on a Corvette. It makes more power
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 03:34 PM
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really? more power huh? i wouldnt have thought of that! i see that nothin gets credit on this engine-specific site, except all the cobras and supras the other guys post up. i guess we'll have to wait till the king, i mean GTR hits the US shores and does some real racing, on a roadcourse. last post from me...
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 05:17 PM
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I love all the people who post the same comments over and over and think they are making a point. I never said the LS series motors were slow or didnt make power or didnt work at making power. READ THIS Im saying if the US took some of that Jap technology and applied it image the power these motors could make with less.

Also the only reason the LS motors get good gas milage is because of the 6th gear is so damn low. Its not because of the motor technology. The only upgrade thats been done is just going from Carb to Fuel Injected with fuel saving emissions. Whats the city milage on those LSx motors? I know mine wasnt great at all.

Lastly the guy who said run what you brung.... Ok Ill bring a 1000 whp car you bring a pinto and we will call it a fair comparison to which is faster..... Im saying in comparison the Z06 and GTR are closer matched that the ZR1 which has much more power.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 06:18 PM
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I agree once GM brings direct injection, FI and VVT to the LSx series its really going to put them even further up the list of the worlds best powerplants.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 06:40 PM
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That would be a blast. love it.
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 09:12 PM
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i love VIR.... i wonder what kinda times they were turning.... also i bet they hit 150-160ish on the back straight


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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by LS240sx
And I agree but I think the US market needs to look to other technology to make even more power out of what they have.
Why?
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by BoutTime99Z28
where did those quarter times come from? the GTR isn't even out yet. nobody said the LS is low tech, it's just not high tech. it uses high tech materials though. we all know the smallblock has been basically the same from '60 until the lt1, but thats 30 years of the same motor. how high tech can it be? it's always funny though when a fanboy himself calls someone else a fanboy.
You want them to put jet packs in there?

Common/Business sense: If it works, why not?
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Old Jan 13, 2008 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by LS240sx
I love all the people who post the same comments over and over and think they are making a point. I never said the LS series motors were slow or didnt make power or didnt work at making power. READ THIS Im saying if the US took some of that Jap technology and applied it image the power these motors could make with less.

Also the only reason the LS motors get good gas milage is because of the 6th gear is so damn low. Its not because of the motor technology. The only upgrade thats been done is just going from Carb to Fuel Injected with fuel saving emissions. Whats the city milage on those LSx motors? I know mine wasnt great at all.

Lastly the guy who said run what you brung.... Ok Ill bring a 1000 whp car you bring a pinto and we will call it a fair comparison to which is faster..... Im saying in comparison the Z06 and GTR are closer matched that the ZR1 which has much more power.

You want a fast 6 gear?

And no, we don't want japanese V-tech technology in LSX engines.

What have the Japanese revolutionized in terms of automotive engineering? What? What the **** are you talking about?
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Old Jan 14, 2008 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by LS240sx
Im saying in comparison the Z06 and GTR are closer matched that the ZR1 which has much more power.
This thread, and your previous comments were about the ZR1...
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