Mario89 Deal gone Sour
I posted a wanted add in the forum HERE for a 2005-2006 Pontiac GTO alternator. I received a few responses, but I also got a few PM's from people. One of those people was from Mario89, Here is the PM Chain.
I found an F-body alternator, and it won't work for my application, so now I'm on the hunt for an 05-06 GTO alternator on the cheap.
Steve
That sounds good to me! Any damage to it? how many miles? Got a pic? you can PM, E-mail or Txt it to me
My Zip is 85387
Let me know what the total will be shipped and your paypal, and I can make payment as soon as I get the info.
Steve
(623) xxx-xxxx
norcalvp@yahoo.com
Mario89 called me that evening (August 3rd) and I agreed to his $70 asking price. I asked him how much shipping would be and he stated $20 to ship it. He asked if I needed any other GTO parts since he had a bunch. I asked him if he had a white shifter boot, and he said that he did, and he wanted $20 for the boot. So I asked the total price to make sure we were both on the same page. He said that he didn't do paypal, so he'd prefer a money order for $110. I agreed and mailed out a money order..
on August 12th He responded that he received my money order via Text Message and shipped off the parts to me, but shipping cost him $30. I offered to give him some extra money to help cover the cost of shipping it. (I've shipped lots of parts all over the country, and that box should have cost $13-$18 to ship) He said not to worry about it.
Yesterday I received my package, and found the alternator to be in good order, but the shifter boot that I received has 3 holes in it where the shifter pinched the boot between it and the body.
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I send him a text message this morning stating that I received the alternator in good condition, but the shifter boot was damaged. I asked if he wanted me to ship it back to him and he said no that he didn't need it. I asked him about a refund, and that's where his attitude and demeanor changed. Below are the text messages that we swapped this morning.
At this point I stopped responding because It was clear that I wasn't getting through to him. I doubt that I'll ever get my $20 back for the shifter boot. Hopefully this post will help someone else from getting burned too.
Cliff notes:
I bought an alternator and shifter boot from him. Got alternator is good condition, Shifter boot has holes. Seller says that it's not damaged, and wants me to send him more money and parts off of the alternator after the purchase.
BEWARE of MARIO 89! If you do buy something from him be sure to get some good pictures first!!!
Steve
I posted a wanted add in the forum HERE for a 2005-2006 Pontiac GTO alternator. I received a few responses, but I also got a few PM's from people. One of those people was from Mario89, Here is the PM Chain.
Mario89 called me that evening (August 3rd) and I agreed to his $70 asking price. I asked him how much shipping would be and he stated $20 to ship it. He asked if I needed any other GTO parts since he had a bunch. I asked him if he had a white shifter boot, and he said that he did, and he wanted $20 for the boot. So I asked the total price to make sure we were both on the same page. He said that he didn't do paypal, so he'd prefer a money order for $110. I agreed and mailed out a money order..
on August 12th He responded that he received my money order via Text Message and shipped off the parts to me, but shipping cost him $30. I offered to give him some extra money to help cover the cost of shipping it. (I've shipped lots of parts all over the country, and that box should have cost $13-$18 to ship) He said not to worry about it.
Yesterday I received my package, and found the alternator to be in good order, but the shifter boot that I received has 3 holes in it where the shifter pinched the boot between it and the body.
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I send him a text message this morning stating that I received the alternator in good condition, but the shifter boot was damaged. I asked if he wanted me to ship it back to him and he said no that he didn't need it. I asked him about a refund, and that's where his attitude and demeanor changed. Below are the text messages that we swapped this morning.
At this point I stopped responding because It was clear that I wasn't getting through to him. I doubt that I'll ever get my $20 back for the shifter boot. Hopefully this post will help someone else from getting burned too.
Cliff notes:
I bought an alternator and shifter boot from him. Got alternator is good condition, Shifter boot has holes. Seller says that it's not damaged, and wants me to send him more money and parts off of the alternator after the purchase.
BEWARE of MARIO 89! If you do buy something from him be sure to get some good pictures first!!!
Steve
dude you are a ******* joke... i gave you that part basically for free as i was being a nice guy.. and you gonna come on here and talk ****... let everyone see what a joke you are., when i sent it to you i didnt see any holes or cuts and i even sent you pictures ..the one you took pictures of is probably the old one you had or something.. .
I disagree…. You didn't give it for me... You charged me $20 for it. And you sent me a boot with holes in it. I came here to let others know to be careful when dealing with you.... What exactly do I have to gain from posting this thread? I'm pretty sure you won't own up to sending me a bad part, so I doubt I'll see my $20 again. Why would I take pictures of the one that I already have… you can see the box that you sent me in the background with the alternator still in it.
Maybe you sent me a bad part… Ever think of that possibility? Lets face it I really enjoyed this transaction until last night when I open the box. I pulled the alternator out of the box and inspected it to make sure it didn’t have any broken fins. I was tickled pink! Then I pulled the boot out and looked it over and found the holes. I sent you a text message this morning trying to work with you, but in the end you just turned out to be a jackass.
Face it. You sent me a bad part, I called you on it, and you got defensive and pissy. No matter how you slice it, you sent me a shifter boot with 3 holes in it, not tiny pin holes. Holes big enough that I could stick my fingers through. I already have a boot in this condition. That's why I wanted one that is in good shape. Just another thing to toss into my trash bin.
BTW I really like the latest text message
To future buyers BEWARE!!! This is what happens if you have issues that you would bring to this sellers attention.
Last edited by Deserttaco; Aug 19, 2010 at 06:56 PM.
Maybe you sent me a bad part… ever think of that possibility? Lets face it i really enjoyed this transaction until last night when i open the box. I pulled the alternator out of the box and inspected it to make sure it didn’t have any broken fins. I was tickled pink! Then i pulled the boot out and looked it over and found the holes. I sent you a text message this morning trying to work with you, but in the end you just turned out to be a jackass.
Face it. You sent me a bad part, i called you on it, and you got defensive and pissy. No matter how you slice it, you sent me a shifter boot with 3 holes in it, not tiny pin holes. Holes big enough that i could stick my fingers through. I already have a boot in this condition. That's why i wanted one that is in good shape. Just another thing to toss into my trash bin.
Btw i really like the latest text message
nice man… really mature. Yes i am creating a thread abou this. That's the whole point of this "bad sellers" forum. To let others know of deals gone wrong. Yes i understand that this is only $20, but what if i had/have problems with the alternator? Can i expect the same response from you? My guess is probably....
To future buyers beware!!! This is what happens if you have issues that you would bring to this sellers attention.
you know damn well i sent you that part as a freebie.. And you keep saying i didnt... Where did you get 20 from? Without that part and me selling you the alt for 70 that total was more then you sent me.. So how did you pay for that part? You want 20 back so you can say you paid 50 for the alt and i told you that wont happen.. And the holes werent there when i sent you the picture.. So dont come on here making it sound like i did you wrong,, i sent you a free part as a favor and you turned on me... Have a good one..
I'll break it down for you incase simple math is an issue for you.
$70 alternator (Per your PM I posted above)
$20 shipping for said alternator (Which should have more than covered the cost to ship it)
Add those two numbers together and what do you get?? $70+$20= $90. So you're saying that I just tossed in an extra $20 for good measure? Maybe I'm just that nice of a guy? Sure sometimes, but not this time.
I sent you $110, According to my simple math above I should have only sent you $90 for the alternator shipped to me. So where did the extra $20 come from? Oh yeah that's right... The shifter boot that you told me you wanted $20 for... if you were giving me the boot for free (Which you didn't) There's no way I would have ever even contacted you regarding the damage.
$90 shipped for alternator alone
$110 shipped for the alternator and shifter boot...
See the difference? No not yet?
Ok, let me ask you this, so If I paid $70 for the alternator, what you're telling me is that I then paid $40 to have it shipped to me? If you would have told me that I was paying $40 for shipping I would have told you that I wasn't interested anymore. And this deal would have never happened, and I feel that both of us would be happier at this point.
I don't want to pay $50 for the alternator, I want to pay $70 for the alternator, $20 for shipping (just a refresher that equals $90) and I'd love a refund of $20 for the shifter boot that I received that was damaged ($110-$90=$20).
I paid you your asking price for the alternator and shifter boot (Once again incase you have forgotton $70+$20, + the shipping that you quoted me ($20). I also used the payment method that you requested. I can't understand how you think that I'm trying to screw you...
Also These holes are in the shifter boot that you sent to me. I did not make holes in it to make you look bad, It's not the one I already had that had similar holes in it. This is the very same one you sent to me. The holes were there, you just didn't look at it before you tossed it in the box. Just because you didn't inspect the part before you sold it, Don't come and flame me for finding the flaws after you shipped it to me.
Understand yet? If not I can always write it down in Crayon if that'll make it easier to understand...
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Here is the text I sent you right before you sent me that little Gem...

You do realize that your posts in this thread only prove my point right?
Last edited by Deserttaco; Aug 20, 2010 at 12:11 AM.
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How about you defendent? Any proof he only sent you $90 on a money order?
Also if his posts are inaccurate do you have any PMs showing this conversation to be different?
At this point the original poster seems to be more in the right based on the evidence he has provided.
Ask and you shall receive
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I have blocked out the sellers address for privacy. The package came UPS ground...

EDIT: Here is the UPS Tracking number incase anyone wants it... Although I would be curious to see how much shipping actually was...
1Z74W6070340115758
Last edited by Deserttaco; Aug 20, 2010 at 01:34 PM.
The seller set the prices and now is sayin the prices he set arent good.
Its easy to tell when someone isnt tellin the truth when they dont focus on the problem but change the focus onto their own issues. Seller spends very little time saying he is sure that it wasnt damaged and then spends alot of time saying well you got it for "free" neway.
Luckily it was 20 bux so when ya dont get it you arent out that much and he gets the tarnished image.
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The seller set the prices and now is sayin the prices he set arent good.
Its easy to tell when someone isnt tellin the truth when they dont focus on the problem but change the focus onto their own issues. Seller spends very little time saying he is sure that it wasnt damaged and then spends alot of time saying well you got it for "free" neway.
Luckily it was 20 bux so when ya dont get it you arent out that much and he gets the tarnished image.
Enter the details and click submit.
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Wow, I was sure trying to make that much harder than it was. That was super easy! Done! I even put a link to this thread in it.
Thanks!



