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Old 12-10-2002, 11:21 AM
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i've dealth with john in the past i sold him my old Borla exhaust...he was very prompt with his payment and i sent him the exhaust no problems at all, he was a very good person to do business with...ya'll must have the wrong person....hope this helps
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Thanks Chris and Extreme <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

I appreciate the good words.

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Old 12-12-2002, 08:53 PM
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Funny how the creator of this post hasn't responded in almost 2 weeks, and it's past December 7th. So much for coming to arrest me huh <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

I think everyone on here can see that the accusations put forth by Sgt538 are bogus and hold NO truth to them at ALL, including this post in general.

Mods, if this post could be deleted, I would appreciate it as I do not want to have to deal with defending myself everytime I attempt to buy or sell something on the boards here. Thanks!

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Old 12-13-2002, 11:23 AM
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Perhaps you can send sgt the info for the other guy because sgt is really a cop here in the chicagoland area, so don't just be casual about this stuff.
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Old 12-13-2002, 11:39 AM
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Send him what info for what other guy? Jason?

First of all, he cannot come on these boards and represent himself as a police officer. Second of all, he has been harassing me for weeks now with threats and taunts.

I am very casual about it, he has no authority or jurisdiction anyway. Just because he's a cop in IL doesn't mean anything. Any fraud case is strictly a civil matter, not criminal.

I don't see where just b/c he has a badge, everyone is quick to believe him, that doesn't mean he's right and I am in the wrong.

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Sorry guys, I was on vacation. I got everything filed with Orlando PD, Orange County Sheriffs Police, and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center
( http://www1.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp ). I provided them with all of the info I have and all of the statements of all of his other victims that were more than willing to participate. First check the following thread: http://forums.corvetteforum.com/zero...=427385&page=1
Notice that all of his posts have been edited by him after the fact. He went back and removed the false statements, profanity, and incriminating information.
After I first viewed his original ad on November 8th I contacted him via e-mail and inquired about the condition of the changer. He claimed it was "perfect, in pretty excellent shape". Here is a cut n paste of that e-mail:
Subj: Re: C5 CD Changer on CF
Date: 11/8/02 12:10:45 PM Central Standard Time
From: LS 1 Vette C Ya
To: Sgt538
Looks perfect, no dents or anything, pretty excellent shape
Ill meet you in the middle at $250 shipped.
Let me know

I agreed to his price of $250.00, plus $8.00 in fees, and he sent me this:

Subj: Re: C5 CD Changer on CF
Date: 11/8/02 12:24:31 PM Central Standard Time
From: LS 1 Vette C Ya
To: Sgt538
Email is "oneluvdiva@aol.com" Total will be $258.00. I will ship this out by wednesday via UPS and send you back a tracking # when it ships.
Thanks! John

After he received my PayPal payment he sent me this:

Subj: Re: C5 CD Changer on CF
Date: 11/8/02 12:31:07 PM Central Standard Time
From: LS 1 Vette C Ya
To: Sgt538
I will e-mail you as soon as UPS picks it up. I am not sure if they are open on Monday for the holiday, but I will get it out asap. Should be there by Friday at the latest to you. Have a good weekend! Also, I do have another changer here, so if you notice the post still up on the Forum, that's why. Thanks for the purchase!
If you're looking for anything else for your car, just let me know and I will see if I can help out.
John

After 10 days had passed and my changer hadn't arrived, I inquired and he sent this:

Subj: Re: Changer
Date: 11/18/02 5:40:44 PM Central Standard Time
From: LS 1 Vette C Ya
To: Sgt538
Sorry, been busy. It's going out tommorrow. Will be there friday afternoon, thanks!
John

After 4 more days passed and he still hadn't sent it I warned others on the forum about this seller. Another member of the forum sent me a heads-up that he operates on several forums and on eBay with some pretty bad feedback. Bay/User/E-Mail IS's included zohhsix, insanels1, ls1vettecya, ssforu2nv, jsemotorsports, crazyvette, zo6e, zo6ed, and oneluvdiva.

On Nov 22nd I asked eBay for the ID info of Zohhsix, here is what they sent:

Subj: eBay User Information Request
Date: 11/22/02 8:09:03 PM Central Standard Time
From: aw-confirm@ebay.com
To: sgt538@aol.com
Dear sgt538 and zohhsix,
This message is an automated reply to a contact information request made by sgt538. This request is related to item # 1873268655.
Contact information for zohhsix:
User ID: zohhsix
Name: Rob Peruso
Company:
City: Caldwell
State: NJ
Country: United States
Phone: 973 226 1261

I called the phone number. Its a fake. I reported this name (zohhsix) to eBay and they verified that it was fake and suspended the account. They went on to investigate and ended up shutting down 4 more eBay accounts all beonging to the same guy. Mr. John Shiel of Orlando FL and New Jersey.
I then began asking other people he had sold items to on eBay about their transactions via e-mail.
Here are some of the responses I received:

Date: 11/22/02 8:24:09 PM Central Standard Time
From:
To: sgt538@aol.com
Yes, I'll sign a statement. He's a scum bag. I'll be out of town for a day
or two, so I'll catch up with you on Monday. Send me additional info if
necessary. My suggestion would be to go to Orlando and simply kick his butt.
_________________________

Date: 11/22/02 8:35:45 PM Central Standard Time
From:
To: Sgt538
He stiffed me on a purchase.
____________________________

Date: 11/24/02 5:42:45 AM Central Standard Time
From:
To: sgt538@aol.com
Randy, Just an update, since your post on the corvetteforum, John has sent a number of emails concerning my...failed purchase... I am out ...several hundred dollars... I fell I am also a victim of his scam. I think people like this should be punished, for attempting to prey on others with good nature and honesty. Maybe you have him running scared, therefore he is trying to make a last effort ditch, to make things right.
_________________________________
I emailed him several times and he emailed me back with threats, lies, and
refused any refund even after I sent the item back to him.
____________________________

I got ripped off by John Shiel. We had a deal on. I would be happy to do an affidavit for you! The guy threatened me and I decided to let it go. Being a female being threatened by a male didn't help. ________________________________________

Date: 11/23/02 12:55:38 AM Central Standard Time
From:
To: Sgt538
Yes, I am having trouble with the person you speak of. It looks to me, I got ripped off also, as it has been over a month and he will not answer any of my e-mails & I have received nothing from him.
He is a problem. I will do what ever you ask of me to stop him from his swindling people.
___________________________________

Date: 11/23/02 12:29:26 AM Central Standard Time
From:
To: Sgt538
This guy is terrible to do business with. He was profane, hateful and lied about shipment.
___________________________________

Date: 11/22/02 11:37:31 PM Central Standard Time
From:
To: sgt538@aol.com
I did get ripped off by JOHN SHEIL, he also has another e-mail address of Z06E@aol.com
____________________________________
Date: 11/23/02 9:56:10 AM Central Standard Time
From:
To: Sgt538
I would like to get this bastard, let me know how i can help. He used foul laungauge ...
_______________________________________

After all of the above e-mails arrived, the changer he shipped arrived. It was beat up and the wrong brand. He refused to refund my money uless I first sent it back to him, at my expense.

Here is his ebay user "zohhsix" info: http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...userid=zohhsix . Here is what his user ID history was on this one account: ssforu2nv, then z06eb, then zohhsix until suspended.

His ebay user "insanels1" http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...erid=insanels1 This one uses e-mail of oneluvdiva@aol.com, which is also the PayPal address he uses.

His ebay user "crazyvette" http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...rid=crazyvette This one uses ls1vettecya@aol.com.

His ebay user "jsemotorsports": http://cgi2.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAP...jsemotorsports
this one uses jsemotorsports@aol.com

Another of his names and sites: http://www.sounddomain.com/id/ssforu2nv Here he states: First half of the page is all my for sale stuff. If you're interested in anything for sale, feel free to e-mail me at "Ls1vettecya@aol.com" and we can work something out.

As best as I can tell, he is not the same person as Jason. You decide whether or not to deal with him. Good luck.
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Old 12-22-2002, 09:59 PM
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Check these out: Shill Bidding Arrests and Convictions. We should see Mr John Shiel listed in these real soon!

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Old 12-28-2002, 01:52 PM
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Mr Shiel aka InSaneLs1 has admitted to Shill Bidding on several forum threads, but he has gone back and edited the posts. Here is one that is locked so he hasn't been able to edit out his confesion: http://www.corvetteforum.com/forums/...5&pagenumber=1
The link to his confesion won't show right because this forum automatically edits out other forums links. If you wish to view it, replace " corvetteforum " in the URL with z06vette and you will be taken to the confession of shill bidding.
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Hope you had a good vacation Sgt. I'm sure you will be getting another one very soon. Maybe you can take that time off to come down to Florida for real this time. LOL
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by InSaneLs1:
<strong> Any fraud case is strictly a civil matter, not criminal.
</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">That's where you're wrong. Fraud is CRIMINAL!!! And in this case, since you're in FL/NJ and the sgt is in IL, it's MAIL FRAUD on top of any other charges. Also, the shill bidding is ILLEGAL as well.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by MacGyver:
<strong> Hope you had a good vacation Sgt. I'm sure you will be getting another one very soon. Maybe you can take that time off to come down to Florida for real this time. LOL </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">John has made no secret of the fact he has contacted my boss. However, he is sadly mistaken in his allegations. He has a lot of people angry at him and I have encouraged him to contact his local police and have whoever it is that is harassing him prosecuted. He wishes it was me but it isn't. My phone records are available to anyone that wants them. What John needs to do, and I have told him so, is to get the records of HIS incoming calls to see who the person(s) are that are bothering him. He is sending a few select e-mails and IM's to my boss, but he has failed to send everything. Luckily I have everything and it is very apparant who has been truthful and who is a lia, and who is acting illegally and who is following the law.
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by InSaneLs1:
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Actually, I was scammed by Sgt538, and I have 27 complaints filed against him. Maybe I should postall the e-mails I received from people who he's ripped off. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Please, post them.

Also, whats the funny part? The shill-bidding? The rip-offs? Or the lies?
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LoL.

This post just gets funnier and funnier.


*yawn*

Actually, I was scammed by Sgt538, and I have 27 complaints filed against him. Maybe I should postall the e-mails I received from people who he's ripped off. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />

We don't need to see who the liar is. All e-mails were forwarded to your supervisor. Nice try though. And "a few select e-mails to your boss"? Try around 60.

For anyone else who wants to believe the BS Sgt posts all over about me, here's a link off Ls1.com for a recent transaction I had. Diesel, who is also the moderator on this board can vouch for me as well, as we had a ZR1 wheel deal a while back.

http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...hreadid=219578

Mods, can you explain to me why this post continues to remain open??

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Sgt, what is the update on what is actually being done. I read that you were going to florida and you were already there etc etc. What is the outcome you want and is all this really true.
PS.
I can get you the address I shipped a borla exhaust to John Schiel in Florida if you need that. Im in Mt Prospect, IL so Im a local.

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Is this still ongoing, is there money out there... What's happening?

1) I will do what I can to identify scammers on our site.

2) I will do what I can to help prosecution of scammers too.

3) I will keep in mind anyone who is messing around on Ebay or other sites, but only if I can see that the person is shady, ie, link me to threads etc.
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I e-mailed you everything.
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SGT is your complaint solely related to Ebay transactions?

I am not Ebay but I also don't want scammers using our FS sections at all.
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No, I learned of his eBay scam later. His deal with me originated on a corvette forum.
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Thanks Randy for chatting on the phone.

Sounds like you have found a lot of folks who have been scammed by one guy. Good luck with the investigation!
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This whole post is totally BS.

No proof of anything has been posted, and eBay scams, give me a break.

PSJ, I ask you, where did I do wrong?. Why don't you look at the facts, which they're aren't any anyway. One guy's word against mine and a bunch of bogus complaints from other people, where are these other people????? Nothing you can do when dealing with a nutcase.

Just a bunch of redundant comments followed with so-called quotes from other people.

This is a JOKE. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
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