I am in the process of building a LS1 RX7 , I bought a motor from Lynn Hopkins in SC (member here) an 02 with 37k ish miles on it. My friend Sabre002 (member here ,also building an LS1 rx7) is putting a cam in his motor 236/236 589 589 112 lsa (custom comp cams grind) so I have been searching the used cams for a while with somewhere close to the same specs and found this one https://ls1tech.com/forums/lsx-parts-sale/611831-fs-off-road-y-pipe-ls6-intake-mti-z1-cam-vinci-programmer.html

I pmed him , he still had the cam , he described it as mint , he shipped it and when I recieved it , opened the box and found a worn out camshaft , the first lobe so worn you can feel the pitting in it. I immediately contacted him and told him i wasnt happy . Here are the series of PM's from bottom to top................!!!!!



[QUOTE=Loudmouth LS1][QUOTE=Loudmouth LS1][QUOTE=Loudmouth LS1]I feel Im getting screwed , He says it doesnt look like the cam he sent me after telling me on the phone that he didnt get a good look at it before he shipped it. Not sure what to do next. The cam has MTi Z1 stamped on it and a serial number , its the same damn cam he sent me for petes sake!!!!

Geez!

 

You obviously don't listen very well, b/c on the phone I said I took a quick look over the cam before I sent it and everything looked good! This is very noticeable and I would have seen it. Also, the guys that pulled that cam out of the car said as well that there was nothing wrong with it and they thoroughly inspected it. Two of those guys are the guys that built my motor, so they are no dummies! We can not contact MTI till they reopen to see if they have any record of the number stamped on the side to see if it's the one my buddy bought, but that cam had only 3000 or so miles on it and was mint! I feel that we are the ones getting screwed here, that you or ur buddy had an MTI Z1 cam in a motor that had some issues and are tryin to get a freebie and screw us and that is the cam you sent me! I have pm'd PSJ about the situation and am waiting back on advice from him. I have not broken contact with you and am just trying to cover all the bases to try and keep my buddy from gettin screwed out of money and a cam! If we can not get any proof from MTI that that is not the cam we sent you (our fault for not taking pictures and writing down numbers or marking it in some way), then my buddy will probably agree to refund the money. Till then you are just going to have to be patient.

[QUOTE=Vette454]I am in the process of building a LS1 RX7 , I bought a motor from Lynn Hopkins in SC (member here) an 02 with 37k ish miles on it. My friend Sabre002 (member here ,also building an LS1 rx7) is putting a cam in his motor 236/236 589 589 112 lsa (custom comp cams grind) so I have been searching the used cams for a while with somewhere close to the same specs and found this one https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611831

I pmed him , he still had the cam , he described it as mint , he shipped it and when I recieved it , opened the box and found a worn out camshaft , the first lobe so worn you can feel the pitting in it. I immediately contacted him and told him i wasnt happy . Here are the series of PM's from bottom to top................!!!!!

 

sorry to invade your post, but can i get lynn hopkins name on here, i believe it was him i got soem parts from a while back on ebay and i was VERY satisfied with everything

 

Thats fine , I will be patient till you hear from MTI , I sure hope they can tack that serial number and youll see Im telling the truth!

 

i pulled that cam out. it was basically brand new! the guys car i worked on had it in there no more then 6000 miles and i was the one who put it in originally.i think he didn't even make it to an oil change before we pulled it out! he saw how much difference a cam made on his 382 and wanted to go bigger right after we put it in. this cam was seen buy the owner, me and Brianc. it had no wear pattern on it at all. it can be a mti cam and the same type of cam but maybe not be the one Loudmouth sent. so he is going to call MTI and get the info he needs to make a determination on the cam. he said he got the cam back and it looked like it was in a car for awhile and it was covered with lint. that sort of wierd considering it went from the motor straight to the box.

 

Covered with lint?? I opened it , inspected it and repackaged it in the exact same packaging he sent it to me in. If it had lint on it then it cam from Devon that way. I took those pictures in my post that I sent to devon before I taped it all back up , thats exactly how it looked . I sure hope they can trace it.

 

Obvious pitting... Without numbers how are you guys going to prove its not the right one? I feel you guys are trying to hide something by doing this. Why did you feel the need to tell the guy your life story? I am sure he only cares about his cam. I'd say you should make this right. I don't see someone having a cam like that just looking for someone to sell them one so they could refund a worse condition one.

 

it has a serial number on the cam from MTI... people have been known to swap cams out. i am sure you heard about that before.

 

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and you all were doing just fine in pm........

 

Exactly, there was no need for this thread.

 

Well let's see, cuz I told the guy I was going to get on the comp that day and send him my mailing address (which I don't understand why he couldn't just look at the return address, but whatever) and I didn't get a chance too cuz of a really bad set of events that happened throughout the day and I always do what I say i'm gonna do, so I let him know what happened as to why I didn't send it, don't see what's wrong their or even the relevance. As for the cam, people have done it before, there are a lot of scumbags in this world, i'm tryin to cover all the bases to make sure my buddy don't get screwed!

 

First of all I fail to see how it is Paul’s fault that you did not cover your own ***, by at least looking at the cam yourself that you were posting up for sale. Then you neglected to take pictures of it or even write down the serial number. Second you describe a used cam as being mint I’m sorry but a new cam is mint not a used one. Next your story keeps changing on the miles with the cam. It went from 3500 to 3000 then to 6000. Quit dragging this out longer then it needs to be and accusing Paul and I of switching out a cam on you I have been in the FL keys and just caught wind of this yesterday. I still have my Comp cam in fact it is in my motor right now so I assure you it was not switched for my cam. My cam is not even a MTI can so it would be blatantly noticeable that it was not the same. Just stop making it seem like you are avoiding having the cam number checked and getting the refund in order.

 

did someone say they switched it with your cam?

 

If you switched out the lifters when you changed the cam , if you still have them around please check them - with that much pitting on the cam there should be noticable wear on at least 2 of the lifters too.

 

I have a .595/.595 236/236 115 cam if you need something close. $200 Low miles

I ran 10.9@131mph in my rx7 with it.

Mike

 

Thanks for the offer bro , Im ordering a new custom grind from comp cams.

 

First off, why don't you all quit with the ******* drama, i'm getting sick of it, shut up already! I said 3000ish, I don't know the exact #, it was around 3000, I never said 6000, don't know where ur gettin that ****, but regardless, it had very low miles on it! And I did look at the cam before I sent it out, and it looked perfect, I took a quick look over it, I didn't inspect it for 5 hours, but took a quick look and it was immaculate, I didn't think I would have to cover my *** on anything cuz there was nothing wrong with the cam and I guess since i'm not a ******* scumbag I don't think like one and worry about having to cover my *** from people like that! This is obviously getting nowhere, so please just shut up and wait till we can get in touch with MTI, i'm getting tired of you guys and ur drama!

 

The last two posts can be in pm. Please edit them out.

Yes, I know you want to help but this is not the section for posting for sale items.

 

yes it was implyed that paul had a friend switch cams with him and I have been referenced and a friend I was covering my ***.


this was posted by the guy who actualy pulled the cam.

 

np.

we will wait for the outcome until tuesday.

mti closed tomorrow.