Dont Ever Go To This Shop!!
Machinist- I work at that 84 lumber down the street from there. I found out after I dropped the car off that its a new owner and staff from the last time I was there.
I talked to the owner today and he said that he is not gonna pay me anything. He says that it was like that and they did not use a hammer. Im done going back and forth with this guy. I can not prove that they did the damage so I have no chance in court. I am gonna buy a 9 inch now like I originally intended. Thanks for all the help and support guys.
I talked to the owner today and he said that he is not gonna pay me anything. He says that it was like that and they did not use a hammer. Im done going back and forth with this guy. I can not prove that they did the damage so I have no chance in court. I am gonna buy a 9 inch now like I originally intended. Thanks for all the help and support guys.
you don't need a lawyer or nothing. the clerks where you go to file the claim actually help you out and tell you what you need to do. just go for it.
File the small claims lawsuit, any judge would know full well that car did not come in like that only looking for a gear change. Explain everything as you did here and I betcha you win that case. You will probably have to get the second shop owner in with you though. That may be a lil tough but be cool with the guy and see what he says. Offer to buy em lunch and pay for gas etc.
At least you get to ruin the shop owners day and make him nervous up to that court date, that may make you feel a lil better at least. Maybe he will want to work with you once he knows you are taking it to that level even.
Not to mention the negative shop reviews all over the net if he doesnt correct this badly out of control situation. He still has a chance to make things right, and everyone will know he stands behind his work. Hopefully he does that.
At least you get to ruin the shop owners day and make him nervous up to that court date, that may make you feel a lil better at least. Maybe he will want to work with you once he knows you are taking it to that level even.
Not to mention the negative shop reviews all over the net if he doesnt correct this badly out of control situation. He still has a chance to make things right, and everyone will know he stands behind his work. Hopefully he does that.
File the small claims lawsuit, any judge would know full well that car did not come in like that only looking for a gear change. Explain everything as you did here and I betcha you win that case. You will probably have to get the second shop owner in with you though. That may be a lil tough but be cool with the guy and see what he says. Offer to buy em lunch and pay for gas etc.
At least you get to ruin the shop owners day and make him nervous up to that court date, that may make you feel a lil better at least. Maybe he will want to work with you once he knows you are taking it to that level even.
Not to mention the negative shop reviews all over the net if he doesnt correct this badly out of control situation. He still has a chance to make things right, and everyone will know he stands behind his work. Hopefully he does that.
At least you get to ruin the shop owners day and make him nervous up to that court date, that may make you feel a lil better at least. Maybe he will want to work with you once he knows you are taking it to that level even.
Not to mention the negative shop reviews all over the net if he doesnt correct this badly out of control situation. He still has a chance to make things right, and everyone will know he stands behind his work. Hopefully he does that.
this isnt a high profile, imma sue you for $10M type BS. As long as the judge has ample reasoning to determine that the first shop acted carelessly, there shouldnt be any problems on your side. having your friend in the courtroom would defintly be helpful because he heard the same stuff come out of the shop owners mouth as you did and he could testify to that. plus, its not that hard to entice your buddy into the courtroom as it is the 2nd shop owner.
also, keep in mind you can only sue for the price for the rebuild of the stock 10 bolt. you can go out a buy a 12 bolt or a 9'' now, but your only gunna get compensated for the cost of the 10 bolt they messed up.
to the OP, i hope you screw this shop over
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From: Gurnee, Il.
I agree with taking it further. In my years of letting things go only to think about it later and losing sleep over it, I'm done with letting people damage my property and basically getting away with it. I know sometimes you may not feel like dealing with the hassle but at least give it a shot.
I have to find out how much it costs here, I just may do that. Thanks again guys. And the 2nd shop owner, I know him personally so I dont think it will be a problem.
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Several parties screwed up here:
1. Speed Inc should have sold you the thinner paddle for the gears.
2. You should have done more research and known that you would need that part.
3. The installing shop should have stopped what they were doing when they discovered the parts you supplied did not fit.
4. The torque value is rotational torque on the pinion, not the tightening torque for the nut. in/lb or ft/lb aside, that mechanic is clueless.
It sounds like you handed an incompetent mechanic half the parts he needed to do a job correctly.
1. Speed Inc should have sold you the thinner paddle for the gears.
2. You should have done more research and known that you would need that part.
3. The installing shop should have stopped what they were doing when they discovered the parts you supplied did not fit.
4. The torque value is rotational torque on the pinion, not the tightening torque for the nut. in/lb or ft/lb aside, that mechanic is clueless.
It sounds like you handed an incompetent mechanic half the parts he needed to do a job correctly.
Several parties screwed up here:
1. Speed Inc should have sold you the thinner paddle for the gears.
2. You should have done more research and known that you would need that part.
3. The installing shop should have stopped what they were doing when they discovered the parts you supplied did not fit.
4. The torque value is rotational torque on the pinion, not the tightening torque for the nut. in/lb or ft/lb aside, that mechanic is clueless.
It sounds like you handed an incompetent mechanic half the parts he needed to do a job correctly.
1. Speed Inc should have sold you the thinner paddle for the gears.
2. You should have done more research and known that you would need that part.
3. The installing shop should have stopped what they were doing when they discovered the parts you supplied did not fit.
4. The torque value is rotational torque on the pinion, not the tightening torque for the nut. in/lb or ft/lb aside, that mechanic is clueless.
It sounds like you handed an incompetent mechanic half the parts he needed to do a job correctly.
I bought all the parts that you can, I bought a rebuild kit and the ring and pinion. Speed Inc. has nothing to do with this so dont go messing up there rep on here please! You are supposed to just grind down that shim. You dont just call Speed Inc. and say I need a shim for a 4.10 gear. And as stated before, I took it to the shop for the convienence of it being a block from my work and he was only gonna charge 180$. He said they do them all the time and it wasnt the first one they put in a 10 bolt. You should read my previous posts. They were a very reputable shop at one time. They changed owners and crew somtime ago and I was not aware till I picked up the car.
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From: Jupiter Floriduh
It sounds like the problem I'm having the shop........AH HEM midas I took it to fucked my 4:10's completely up they where adjusting my lash and such by feel not gauge so now they whine like a lil bitch but I have a set of new 4:10's handy I did get them to refund the cost of the gears but not their labor. So I still have to put my new gears in.
dude speed quest is a ****** ricer shop, you notice how none of there race cars or even street cars are AMERICAN, maybe you should have done some research on the shop before you took your car there, it took me two minutes of lookin to determine that i would never let these ***** touch my car with a ten foot pole, look at the inside of there shop not one aftermarket part for domestic, heres a good rule of thumb. "If you walk into a shop and see carbon fiber honda hoods hanging on the walls, slowly turn around AND RUN LIKE HELL"lol... Why you took your cars to these guys i don't know, you should have waited for your buddy to do the ****!
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From: Shreveport,Louisiana
People , this is a fine example of why STOCK is the way to go ! If you want a faster car , then buy it that way to begin with , with a warranty ! There are just too many ways to get fucked trying to make your car go faster . Hell , you can't even trust the dealers to know what the **** their doing . So , save your money & buy that Vette or be satisfied with just bolt on's . Unless you can do the work yourself , you will always be at the mercy of the incompetent shop's & their shade tree mechanic's . So avoid those many sleepless nights & watching your money fly out of your pockets and poured down into that hole in the ground . That damn useless money pit. Ok ! Ok ! I'm through ranting & venting . And so it goes !
People , this is a fine example of why STOCK is the way to go ! If you want a faster car , then buy it that way to begin with , with a warranty ! There are just too many ways to get fucked trying to make your car go faster . Hell , you can't even trust the dealers to know what the **** their doing . So , save your money & buy that Vette or be satisfied with just bolt on's . Unless you can do the work yourself , you will always be at the mercy of the incompetent shop's & their shade tree mechanic's . So avoid those many sleepless nights & watching your money fly out of your pockets and poured down into that hole in the ground . That damn useless money pit. Ok ! Ok ! I'm through ranting & venting . And so it goes !
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From: Shreveport,Louisiana
So , you say , "Many people have had many shops install all kinds of stuff without a problem" !!! Hmm ! So this poor guy just fucked himself ? Stupid **** should have known better , huh ? Well , research this wise *** ~
He tried to save some time and went with a shady shop instead of takign to a reputable shop. In the end he wasted time and money by not researching, just as I said before.
Again, you rant and rebuttle are stupid. Better to be a wiseass than a dumbass.
EDIT: You also say that you can't trust the dealership to do good work, then you recommend to buy a new car with a warranty. Who is going to do the warranty work on your super fast bone stock car, smart guy?
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Wow..I had the same thing happen to me..3..yes 3 gear sets later,and they sent my car to a rear end guy this time ,its right..Very little whine.. I think they had about $25k of their own money into my car..Very nice guy,but I hate people that tell you they can do something just to get the job..This guy,like yours,I had to tell him what he needed to do cause he didn't know either..How is that possible? Anyways,I feel your pain and wish you the best..
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This is the dumbest rant I have seen in awhile. Many people have had many shops install all kinds of stuff without a problem. The real issue is to make sure you research the shop before leaving your car with them. If he had waited instead of jumping the gun he would have had this problem at all.
This has got to be the single most stupid person I have seen on this site in a long time.. Seriously,what a jackass! So your going to belittle the guy for being stupid because a shop told him they could do it? Just because they do Honda's and foreign,that doesn't mean they can't do it..And you get a car with the warranty,who are you going to take the car to when it breaks down? You dumb SOB.. Seriously,after all the **** that guy went through who in their right mind or good conscience is going to berate the poor guy for making a learning decision. You have to be like 17 or 20 and live in a trailer court. Because no real man with any respect is going to write something hurtful like that in a forum to someone who just got screwed over!
In any case this situation is actually a good sitation. If I didn't fall into a situation like this when I was much younger I wouldn't have learned what I know now. While this cost a little bit of money and some time the experiance is worth much more than that. I have a good felling the OP won't rush things and will do a much better job when checking out shops down the road.
Last edited by boostedinaz; Jul 14, 2008 at 05:08 PM.