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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 01:09 AM
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I'm trying to buy a supercharger as I type, but I was wandering which set-up would be more dependable, and make more power. The car is a 98 M6, full bolt-ons 50,000 miles on the motor, Nitto Dr's
Supercharged set-up will be a twin intercooled procharger at 6 to 9lbs of boost. The cam and spray will be a MS3 cam with zex wet kit with a 100-125 shot. What do you guys think?
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 07:41 AM
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Supercharger = more power all the time
Nitrous = just when you spray and you have to fill up the tank

I'd rather have the power all the time.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 08:15 AM
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It also depends if cost is a factor. Cam + nitrous is a lot cheaper than a procharger.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 08:29 AM
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I say go cam+nitrous.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 09:39 AM
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What they said^^^ how much money do you want to spend? My buddy has a bolton camed z28 with a 150 wet shot and its dam fast but only when the bottle is on and FULL. When I hit the gas its the the same power all the time. Budget=cam/gas.. If you have some $$ go for the procharger.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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i would say go with the supercharger!! yeah the cam and spray and maybe even some heads later on down the road would still be cheaper. but like it was mentioned u gotta keep refilling yur nitrous. i dont know how much it costs to refill it. so i would say go with a blower. if u ever get a chance to, geez i would do heads + cam + supercharger..
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 10:59 AM
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Also consider how your motor will take boost compared to the common H/C/spray combos. One shop told me a blown LS1 usually lasts a few years.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:05 AM
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Also consider how your motor will take boost compared to the common H/C/spray combos. One shop told me a blown LS1 usually lasts a few years.

Its all in the tune. Spray can **** up a motor first time out if the tune is off...****, N/A you can **** up your motor if the tune is off. I proper set up for a blower/turbo will last just as long as spray.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:21 AM
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I know that the cam and nitrous is cheaper, but which is more dependable and which makes more power. This is going to be a dd car. I don't go to the track much, just like once a month. So which car would win the race is what i'm asking? I want to be in the mid 11's will either get me there on stock bottom end stock heads?
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Originally Posted by Swaie
I know that the cam and nitrous is cheaper, but which is more dependable and which makes more power. This is going to be a dd car. I don't go to the track much, just like once a month. So which car would win the race is what i'm asking? I want to be in the mid 11's will either get me there on stock bottom end stock heads?


i think 11's shouldnt be far to reach with cam + spray or even just going with a supercharger and some good sticky tires man. i think youll be happy either way. the cam/spray is cheaper but the supercharger you will have the power at all times.
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Its all in the tune. Spray can **** up a motor first time out if the tune is off...****, N/A you can **** up your motor if the tune is off. I proper set up for a blower/turbo will last just as long as spray.

Again its all in the tune. You can run 11's with either set up. How long the stock bottom end lasts is going to depend on how good it tuned. bottom line how much do you want to spend and do you want the power all the time or do you only power when the bottle is ready?
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 11:49 AM
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Also witch one makes more power... Its allgoing to depend on how much boost vs what jet you run you can change the pully on a blower to make more power and put a bigger jet in for more power. With the stock bottom end I would keep the RWHP around 500-525 if you want it to last.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:02 PM
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For a DD car i'd probably choose cam and nitrous, i don't know if i would want all that power all the time if i'm DD'ing it, i'd rather just turn it on at the track and be a cruise car any other time. If you go to the track more then once a month then i'd say get supercharger!!
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:06 PM
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I was just readin through have you thought about your rear end? I know im worried about mine from all the horror storys I hear, just my 2 cents but I think the cam/spray would be better from that aspect cause you can spray in 2nd to help the rear on the launch where as a supercharge will give it a big hit all at once for the most part.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:15 PM
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I love boost, even thought my most recent build is a NA motor. Going boost does get expensive though. For the most part, the injectors that come with the kit are not large enough, the tune will get you close only if you have no other modifications, and you're going to need a better fuel pump. We usually get the "tuner kits" from ProCharger, then supply our own injectors, tune, and fuel pump. It costs a little more that way, but then you're not having to get things twice if you ever want to make more power. One more thing to consider, pay for the D1SC upgrade when you get the kit, I believe it's only $300 when you buy it new, but to upgrade later on it costs $1300 or so.

Another thing to consider is that since you're car is a 98, the MAF sensor limits are much lower than that of newer LSx computers. Personally I like going to 2 BAR SD operating systems, which is another reason why we get the tuner kits.
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:21 PM
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For a daily driver I would go with the blower for drivability factors. A blower car with a stock or stocklike cam will drive great but make *** loads of power at the push of the pedal.

I really do like my head/cam nitrous car though for the lope, sound, and I love the hit of nitrous. With a cam though it becomes not as street friendly as a stock cam. Dont believe anyone that say a mid or large cammed car drives like stock because thats not possible. A cammed car can drive OK with the right tuning but not like stock. My car drives great on the street but its clearly not stock like.
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Originally Posted by Swaie
I'm trying to buy a supercharger as I type, but I was wandering which set-up would be more dependable, and make more power. The car is a 98 M6, full bolt-ons 50,000 miles on the motor, Nitto Dr's
Supercharged set-up will be a twin intercooled procharger at 6 to 9lbs of boost. The cam and spray will be a MS3 cam with zex wet kit with a 100-125 shot. What do you guys think?
Ive had both man.... The heads/cam/nitrous is ******* awesome. When your losing the race all you have to do is press the button and your gone. It pulls hard as **** with a 100 shot and I loved it... BUTTT!!!!!!!!! Put yourself in this position.... How many supercharged LS1's are there on the streets? They are so much more unique. If you can afford it and do it the RIGHT way you will have an absolute blast with a supercharger. 9 LBS on a D1 will put you over 575HP... Just be very careful because with that kind of power its very easy to spin a bearing or just plain blow your motor. Make sure you do a fuel pump, proper tuning and if you can put in ARP hardened rod bolts. People with those seem to have fewer issues.

Either way you really cannot go wrong. They are both ******* awesome.

Have fun with it
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Old Oct 16, 2008 | 12:57 PM
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Having a procharged car I would say go with the cam + nitrous. It's fun having the power all the time but you get used to it and the thrill factor goes down. With the nitrous it would always feel like a rush depending on how much you spray
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It's fun having the power all the time but you get used to it and the thrill factor goes down. With the nitrous it would always feel like a rush depending on how much you spray
I agree with that, I love the torque hit of nitrous, its a great feeling.
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