Type of oil? Help
11-29-2008, 07:21 PM
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I just did an oil change this morning and put in some GC.
It sounds like I have 2 dozen hamsters on coke running around in my top end.
Lifter tick like a mother ******.
Anyone else had this problem?
Or is it just the good old 2002 LS1?
It's no cold here in Tampa, and its got only 30k on the clock.
-Matt
It sounds like I have 2 dozen hamsters on coke running around in my top end.
Lifter tick like a mother ******.
Anyone else had this problem?
Or is it just the good old 2002 LS1?
It's no cold here in Tampa, and its got only 30k on the clock.
-Matt
11-29-2008, 09:59 PM
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If you werent listening for it before the change then itll sound insane when you are listening for it.
My car had Mobil 1 in it before I changed to GC and its noticeably quieter. Are you sure you put in German Castrol or just regular syntec?
My car had Mobil 1 in it before I changed to GC and its noticeably quieter. Are you sure you put in German Castrol or just regular syntec?
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11-30-2008, 10:16 PM
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Probably.
But if it wasn't good oil, it wouldn't be worth any endorsement deal for GM to use it in their vehicles if it was an inferior product and caused premature wear and failure of engines.
No endorsement deal is worth $15,000 in warranty work per car for a new motor.
If it wasn't good oil they wouldn't be putting it in their brand new high performance cars, period.
But if it wasn't good oil, it wouldn't be worth any endorsement deal for GM to use it in their vehicles if it was an inferior product and caused premature wear and failure of engines.
No endorsement deal is worth $15,000 in warranty work per car for a new motor.
If it wasn't good oil they wouldn't be putting it in their brand new high performance cars, period.
12-04-2008, 01:06 PM
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12-04-2008, 02:55 PM
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well i run it on my DD grand am, and yea it doesnt see much abuse but its an ok oil. and my buddy runs its on his boosted ecotec, no problems there. i could swear at one point a while back i read on here that it was bottled by mobil1. im not saying it was the same oil, but just bottled by them. don't remember correctly tho
12-11-2008, 01:46 PM
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well i run it on my DD grand am, and yea it doesnt see much abuse but its an ok oil. and my buddy runs its on his boosted ecotec, no problems there. i could swear at one point a while back i read on here that it was bottled by mobil1. im not saying it was the same oil, but just bottled by them. don't remember correctly tho
Whether its S/C or T/C, boost creates a lot of heat, and a boosted motor will easily destroy conventional oil within a couple thousand miles, if not sooner. If you're seeing boost all the time or run at the track, expect to see sludge buildup inside the motor where the oil has broken down.
If its turbocharged, its even worse. Turbos get extremely hot, and conventional oil will "coke" up inside the turbo, destroying both the turbo and often the entire engine.
I'll never understand why anyone would run shitty oil in a performance application, its just plain foolish.
12-11-2008, 02:04 PM
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Thats really not smart to run conventional in a boosted motor.
Whether its S/C or T/C, boost creates a lot of heat, and a boosted motor will easily destroy conventional oil within a couple thousand miles, if not sooner. If you're seeing boost all the time or run at the track, expect to see sludge buildup inside the motor where the oil has broken down.
If its turbocharged, its even worse. Turbos get extremely hot, and conventional oil will "coke" up inside the turbo, destroying both the turbo and often the entire engine.
I'll never understand why anyone would run shitty oil in a performance application, its just plain foolish.
Whether its S/C or T/C, boost creates a lot of heat, and a boosted motor will easily destroy conventional oil within a couple thousand miles, if not sooner. If you're seeing boost all the time or run at the track, expect to see sludge buildup inside the motor where the oil has broken down.
If its turbocharged, its even worse. Turbos get extremely hot, and conventional oil will "coke" up inside the turbo, destroying both the turbo and often the entire engine.
I'll never understand why anyone would run shitty oil in a performance application, its just plain foolish.
i meant the Supertech Synthetic
12-11-2008, 02:09 PM
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I think people are fooling themselves when it comes to engine oils. Other than the additives that are in them, and whether or not it is synthetic or semi-synthetic etc. it is ridiculous to think that one oil is superior to another.
Why do you think there are so many varying opinions? Because there is no right answer, oil is oil is oil, period. The bottle and how fancy it is, or the name, means nothing. Oil is a fossil fuel and if you knew about the refining process you would see that the name goes to the highest bidder, and the differences are often negligible, or close to it.
Concern yourself with the weight of the oil you are using (depending on season, boosted or not etc.) and whether you want sythetic (great for cold weather starts) or semi-synthetic or not, and avoid the hype of which name is better. It is an age old debate that holds little merit and has more to do with marketing than it it does with real world fact. I can pour liquid **** (just an example) into a vehicle and show you some advantages over oil if I use statistics and numbers! Also, oil does not break down, it gets dirty, and anyone who tells you otherwise is not in the know. Is one to assume that oil get thinner with time and mileage, since "breaking down" would indicate just that? In actuality it gets thicker, due to engine breakdown and deposits accumulating within the oil.
If there was in fact ONE superior oil, the others would simply not be able to compete OR exist. Statistics and studies are very easy to use for anyone who knows how to market. I could tell you that 90 percent of vehicles using Castrol have longer lives than vehicles which are not (what about the other 10 percent?). As the spokesperson of Quaker State, I could choose to point out that the remaining 10 percent have total engine breakdown due to the above mentioned oil not being adequate. How controlled are these studies? Are the vehicles the same ones used in ALL studies or did they use inferior vehicles that are cheaply made to point out the competitors lack of quality in oil? For that matter, no two engines are even alike, so where is the constant variable in these equations, and how accurate could the results be? These are just examples and by no means indicate fact. My point is, stats mean nothing and are simply a form of language used to sell merchandise, an idea or name, end of story. There are FAR too many factors affecting engine breakdown to determine that the only cause could be the oil, so these studies are innacurate and often biased.
Unless a comany is putting something other than oil in their "oil" it is, and always will be, oil.
Why do you think there are so many varying opinions? Because there is no right answer, oil is oil is oil, period. The bottle and how fancy it is, or the name, means nothing. Oil is a fossil fuel and if you knew about the refining process you would see that the name goes to the highest bidder, and the differences are often negligible, or close to it.
Concern yourself with the weight of the oil you are using (depending on season, boosted or not etc.) and whether you want sythetic (great for cold weather starts) or semi-synthetic or not, and avoid the hype of which name is better. It is an age old debate that holds little merit and has more to do with marketing than it it does with real world fact. I can pour liquid **** (just an example) into a vehicle and show you some advantages over oil if I use statistics and numbers! Also, oil does not break down, it gets dirty, and anyone who tells you otherwise is not in the know. Is one to assume that oil get thinner with time and mileage, since "breaking down" would indicate just that? In actuality it gets thicker, due to engine breakdown and deposits accumulating within the oil.
If there was in fact ONE superior oil, the others would simply not be able to compete OR exist. Statistics and studies are very easy to use for anyone who knows how to market. I could tell you that 90 percent of vehicles using Castrol have longer lives than vehicles which are not (what about the other 10 percent?). As the spokesperson of Quaker State, I could choose to point out that the remaining 10 percent have total engine breakdown due to the above mentioned oil not being adequate. How controlled are these studies? Are the vehicles the same ones used in ALL studies or did they use inferior vehicles that are cheaply made to point out the competitors lack of quality in oil? For that matter, no two engines are even alike, so where is the constant variable in these equations, and how accurate could the results be? These are just examples and by no means indicate fact. My point is, stats mean nothing and are simply a form of language used to sell merchandise, an idea or name, end of story. There are FAR too many factors affecting engine breakdown to determine that the only cause could be the oil, so these studies are innacurate and often biased.
Unless a comany is putting something other than oil in their "oil" it is, and always will be, oil.
