which cam?
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which cam? I am new to this site and like many others am making the well needed switch to Gen3 motors from SBC's. I am in the process of switching from a 406SBC/th350 to an '01 Vette LS1/4L60 in my chopped 39 Ford sedan. Fords always run better with chevys in them. I am sticking with just headers, converter & cam for now because the rest of the swap with EFi & all is costing enough. I was thinking about the GM hot cam with 112cl 219/229 dur. & LS6 springs or a comp 224/230 with 114cl. Does anyone have any experience with this or is it old tech compared to the comp? I have been told to stay with the wider cl for idle quality and that it won't sacrifice any power. The comp package with springs is $100 or so more so I was wondering if it was that much better. Any input?
If it were me I would go with a texas speed 228R cam with comp 918 springs and hardened push rods. http://www.texas-speed.com/shop/item...d=167&catid=44
I had a thunder racing cam 224 and after a week I wish i had gone bigger. Also if the engine you have doesn't have one get a ls6 intake manifold for it. https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...mparision.html
I had a thunder racing cam 224 and after a week I wish i had gone bigger. Also if the engine you have doesn't have one get a ls6 intake manifold for it. https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...mparision.html
stay away from the hot cam, even though the cam is OK. There are much better cams out there if you care about performance and power. Ask yourself: do you want a lopey idle? Low/top end power? sleeper?
P.S: OOPS, the guy who made 400 RWHP with the Hot Cam is gonna chime in!
P.S: OOPS, the guy who made 400 RWHP with the Hot Cam is gonna chime in!
ya stay away from the hot cam i had it and its great but doesnt hav e any top end power whats so ever and it has a nice idel but idel doesnt make power go with the 228/232 thats the best cam for a ls1
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Thanks guys Thanks , thats what I wanted to know, how they really run. I will check out the texas speed site. Guess I better start hunting for an intake too. Any other info is appreciated. I notice there isn't much under 1 3/4 for full length headers, you would think you'd loose a decent amount of torque on a 5.7 with those, not the case?
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You wont loose any torque with 1 3/4 headers. If you plan on some heads to go with the cam some time down the road you could go to a 1 7/8 header and see some nice gains. check out this thread. https://ls1tech.com/forums/generatio...o-results.html
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Thanks again Once again hands on experience pays off. I never would have put an 1 7/8 on a 346 stock headed motor. But Gen 1 stuff doesn't cross over too well when it has to do with head related parts and these things have definitely got them beat in breathing right out of the box. I will try that TS228 cam. I will have to look around at headers to see if they have an 1 7/8 'cause this isn't a 4th gen F body. Kooks makes a nice SS set (expensive though) and Hooker has some also for Gen3 motor in a Gen1 F subframe. Good side is I will be at 2900lbs. I am guessing GM is where to get the LS6 intake. Anyone out there have 1 for sale ?
Tsp sells the ls6 intake too but I would check the for sale section at the bottom of this forum. I have kooks SS headers and they are nice but $$$. What ever header you go with make sure they are at least ceramic coated if you dont go stainless. A ls1 with full boltons and that cam in 2,900 lbs car is going to be bad ***.
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Weiand plastic intake? Has anyone tried the Weiand plastic intake yet? Price is $150 better than a Fast and advertises roughly the same gain. But... does it deliver? Anyone know?
BTW, thanks for all the info so far guys.
BTW, thanks for all the info so far guys.
Look in the classified for an LS6 IM. I have bought and sold them for 325$ in there. Get one and a ported TB and your good to go.
Also with a light car like that you can get away with more cam than most of us
Also with a light car like that you can get away with more cam than most of us
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thanks Yup, I hear ya. Less weight, more cam, less gear. That's part of why I got outa muscle cars & into rods. My 72 Chevelle ran high 11's with 454 & 4.88's but couldn't go anwhere with it, so I bought a 40 ****** & put in a 406SB with a 236/248/.550 solid roller & went just as fast on 89 octane with 3.55 gears. Drove it everywhere. But whats the point in building those anymore when these are so much better/lighter/etc.
As I mentioned at the top, I have lots of experience with Gen1 BBC & SBC but these flow so much better you don't need as much cam to get the hp & headers are bigger. I have a tube chassis ****** with a 622 that makes these cams look like a Briggs & Stratton (Keith's ******- youtube, doesn't really do it justice but thats the camera's fault)
It's tempting to go bigger with the cam, as we all know, but I also tow with this and I think the 228 is a good place to start. Thanks again for all the help all of you. I will put up some pics when they are worth posting. Maybe I'll throw in one of the ****** too.
As I mentioned at the top, I have lots of experience with Gen1 BBC & SBC but these flow so much better you don't need as much cam to get the hp & headers are bigger. I have a tube chassis ****** with a 622 that makes these cams look like a Briggs & Stratton (Keith's ******- youtube, doesn't really do it justice but thats the camera's fault)
It's tempting to go bigger with the cam, as we all know, but I also tow with this and I think the 228 is a good place to start. Thanks again for all the help all of you. I will put up some pics when they are worth posting. Maybe I'll throw in one of the ****** too.
Sounds like an awesome project and I wanna keep updated. Love hearing bout the old SBC crowd coming around to the LS stuff ( like me...). We will help all we can but there are so many smart guys on here and a few other sites that can honestly answer any ? you can come up with it is amazing..... keep in touch and good luck....and go for a low 230's cam on 111/112+ 2 to make power early and hit hard as a Blue Ribbon Boner
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