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Old 12-24-2008 | 12:32 PM
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So I've had my '02 T/A now for about a year now. The only thing I've done are free mods, including running a straight pipe.

I've noticed since getting back into a performance car with an auto, this particular T/A is kinda weak from a low speed roll....say between 20 to 45mph. It feels like the trans won't downshift and I'm pulling a lead weight out back, until it slowly gets to speed. 50 and above it pulls like great, dropping down a gear and haulin', but low rolls I can see myself getting walked often. Digs are decent.

I usually just leave my shifter in "D". Never tried it in "3", would that help? Could it be the 2.73's? Would a gear change or a stall help cure that? If so, I heard usually try a stall before a gear change, right?

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Old 12-24-2008 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by ponchoV8
So I've had my '02 T/A now for about a year now. The only thing I've done are free mods, including running a straight pipe.

I've noticed since getting back into a performance car with an auto, this particular T/A is kinda weak from a low speed roll....say between 20 to 45mph. It feels like the trans won't downshift and I'm pulling a lead weight out back, until it slowly gets to speed. 50 and above it pulls like great, dropping down a gear and haulin', but low rolls I can see myself getting walked often. Digs are decent.

I usually just leave my shifter in "D". Never tried it in "3", would that help? Could it be the 2.73's? Would a gear change or a stall help cure that? If so, I heard usually try a stall before a gear change, right?

Thanks.
dont take it out of D, it wont change anything. also dont manually shift the car, because that will actually slow you down (since its shifted via the computer, so any shifting you do will be in vain). your problem is not your 2.73's but your stock stall. go get a 3200 stall and it'll feel like someone just rammed the *** end of your car when you punch it from a low roll.
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u need a stall!!!
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Mine flops like a dead fish from around 40-50. It'll get squirrelly if I stab it around 35 and pulls hard from 55 and up. When punching it below 40, just make sure it's actually shifted into the next gear. Otherwise, you won't get that hard jump. Sometimes mine doesn't do it and it's embarrassing.

I'm looking to get a 3600 for mine. Should cure those dead spot blues
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Originally Posted by ponchoV8
So I've had my '02 T/A now for about a year now. The only thing I've done are free mods, including running a straight pipe.

I've noticed since getting back into a performance car with an auto, this particular T/A is kinda weak from a low speed roll....say between 20 to 45mph. It feels like the trans won't downshift and I'm pulling a lead weight out back, until it slowly gets to speed.
Sounds like something is wrong with the trans.

I have two 2.73 A4 LS1 cars with stock stalls, and they downshift to 1st at up to about 37mph and pull very hard. If you hit it from 40 to 50ish it's kinda weak though. But if you're punching it at 25-35mph and *not* getting a strong downshift to 1st, something is wrong. It should pull great at those speeds.
Old 12-24-2008 | 05:58 PM
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I don't know anyhting about auto transmisions, but I do know you need a stall. With less than 30K miles, it's hard to believe it's the tranny (but it certainly could be).
Old 12-24-2008 | 06:15 PM
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you definetly need to get a stall and some rear gears, It will make a world of difference. And start going from a dig.
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You people saying stall have it all wrong. A stall will NOT cause you to have a different downshift pattern.

If the trans is not downshifting to 1st gear at 35mph and below, something is not right plain and simple. A stall will not fix this issue.
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Originally Posted by RPM WS6
Sounds like something is wrong with the trans.

I have two 2.73 A4 LS1 cars with stock stalls, and they downshift to 1st at up to about 37mph and pull very hard. If you hit it from 40 to 50ish it's kinda weak though. But if you're punching it at 25-35mph and *not* getting a strong downshift to 1st, something is wrong. It should pull great at those speeds.
I did some playing around today and tried it in D and 3, no difference as 406malibu pointed out. But I realized exactly what you are saying. 30 and below, it will shift to 1st and pull good, BUT 45-50ish, its kinda weak. Above 60, it pulls quite nicely. Time for a stall. Thanks guys.
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A Stall won't help it on a downshift like you are wanting it too.. you get a decently sized Stall, and it will be a slug on the highway cause all it will do is flash the RPM's and then start to pull.

A 3600 is a good Stall to go with if you want one. If you want to change the downshift patterns, throw some 3.73's in it. Then you will notice a difference.
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no worries i have an a4 with 2.73s and it doesent down shift at those speeds i think its just normal.
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Originally Posted by ponchoV8
30 and below, it will shift to 1st and pull good, BUT 45-50ish, its kinda weak. Above 60, it pulls quite nicely. Time for a stall. Thanks guys.
Sounds like all is normal then.
Old 12-25-2008 | 11:34 PM
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A Stall won't help it on a downshift like you are wanting it too.. you get a decently sized Stall, and it will be a slug on the highway cause all it will do is flash the RPM's and then start to pull.

A 3600 is a good Stall to go with if you want one. If you want to change the downshift patterns, throw some 3.73's in it. Then you will notice a difference.
I was thinking gears as well, maybe 3.23's or 3.42's, but I was thinking 3.73's AND a stall will downright kill my city mileage. I currently avg 21-22mpg's combined cty/hwy. I can only imagine what a stall and gears would do to it.

I know that a person can adjust the programming in these tranny's, would that help with the downshift?
Old 12-27-2008 | 11:22 AM
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gears and stall will decrease your mileage but im a firm believer that your right foot affects it the most. i think all the downshift points are adjustable using HPTuners or LS1edit.
Old 12-27-2008 | 05:09 PM
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3200-3600 stall and 3.73 gears will get you going in the direction thats for damn sure!
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Originally Posted by gc302047
no worries i have an a4 with 2.73s and it doesent down shift at those speeds i think its just normal.
it is
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Originally Posted by shaolink9
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Old 03-17-2009 | 11:24 PM
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Wouldn't he notice alot more UMPHhh to the car if he just changed the gears? Say to like 3.73s?
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I know mine woke the hell up with the 3.73s dropped in. We'll see what kinda gains they give me at the strip.
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roll racing is for hondas. :p


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