Basics of a Cam
#21
Re: Basics of a Cam
I pull 391rwhp/378Tq with just a 220. And with 115lsa it idles like almost stock, and it passes sniff tests. A lot of takers on challenges as they always think i'm kinda stock. Plus a little 'juice' and I'm over 500. =
#22
Re: Basics of a Cam
I pull 391rwhp/378Tq with just a 220. And with 115lsa it idles like almost stock, and it passes sniff tests. A lot of takers on challenges as they always think i'm kinda stock. Plus a little 'juice' and I'm over 500. =
you got the mti stealth cam; 220/220 .581/.581 115lsa?
#23
yeap.
GMAF, BBK TB, FIPK II, TB BYPASS, MTI SS1 CAM, PATRIOT LS1 II, COMP. SHAFT ROCKERS (1.7), PACESETTERS, MODIFIED G2 Y (2.75/3'), C/OT, HOOKER C/B, POLY BUSHINGS, NO CATS (Only ON For Sniffs), TCI SSF 3500,MOTIVE 3:73, T/A GIRDLE, SLP LINE LOCK, M/T ET's (26/10.5/16). Some Tuning.
GMAF, BBK TB, FIPK II, TB BYPASS, MTI SS1 CAM, PATRIOT LS1 II, COMP. SHAFT ROCKERS (1.7), PACESETTERS, MODIFIED G2 Y (2.75/3'), C/OT, HOOKER C/B, POLY BUSHINGS, NO CATS (Only ON For Sniffs), TCI SSF 3500,MOTIVE 3:73, T/A GIRDLE, SLP LINE LOCK, M/T ET's (26/10.5/16). Some Tuning.
Last edited by 4thGENRETARD; 10-24-2003 at 07:36 AM.
#24
Originally Posted by 4thGENRETARD
yeap.
GMAF, BBK TB, FIPK II, TB BYPASS, MTI SS1 CAM, PATRIOT LS1 II, COMP. SHAFT ROCKERS (1.7), PACESETTERS, MODIFIED G2 Y (2.75/3'), C/OT, HOOKER C/B, POLY BUSHINGS, NO CATS (Only ON For Sniffs), TCI SSF 3500,MOTIVE 3:73, T/A GIRDLE, SLP LINE LOCK, M/T ET's (26/10.5/16). Some Tuning.
GMAF, BBK TB, FIPK II, TB BYPASS, MTI SS1 CAM, PATRIOT LS1 II, COMP. SHAFT ROCKERS (1.7), PACESETTERS, MODIFIED G2 Y (2.75/3'), C/OT, HOOKER C/B, POLY BUSHINGS, NO CATS (Only ON For Sniffs), TCI SSF 3500,MOTIVE 3:73, T/A GIRDLE, SLP LINE LOCK, M/T ET's (26/10.5/16). Some Tuning.
#25
Thank you, but as you know it's never enough. Something to do with the "mod monster", LOL.
I want to take it to the track, but they booted me out after my first run for breaking into the 11's and lack of safety equipment. Thank god I didn't use the "juice", I probably would have been banned forever.
Your TR230 with 111 lsa must be a mean sounding beast.
I want to take it to the track, but they booted me out after my first run for breaking into the 11's and lack of safety equipment. Thank god I didn't use the "juice", I probably would have been banned forever.
Your TR230 with 111 lsa must be a mean sounding beast.
#26
Originally Posted by 4thGENRETARD
Thank you, but as you know it's never enough. Something to do with the "mod monster", LOL.
I want to take it to the track, but they booted me out after my first run for breaking into the 11's and lack of safety equipment. Thank god I didn't use the "juice", I probably would have been banned forever.
Your TR230 with 111 lsa must be a mean sounding beast.
I want to take it to the track, but they booted me out after my first run for breaking into the 11's and lack of safety equipment. Thank god I didn't use the "juice", I probably would have been banned forever.
Your TR230 with 111 lsa must be a mean sounding beast.
havent been to the track yet so i dont know what i'll pul. at least you got in one good run. ya, the 111lsa definately has got some lope to it
#27
LOL. South FL. that isn't what I meant. I mean having a cam that is just too big for the street, the lope I don't mind at all, it's when it becomes hard to control the thing is what I am concerned about. When you basically have to rev the thing way too high just to take off. And then when you do you are basically going to rear end the guy in front of you.
So that big of a cam that you have drives fine on the street? How bad is that much lift on your springs? I think I want to get a cam a little bigger than the 224, something along the lines of what you have, but I'm worried about going through springs all the time being a daily driver. And I also need to see what kind of heads would do well with that large of a cam. And on top of that how well will that type of cam react to lets say a 150 shot of juice? And before I do any of this I am going to need LT's, high flow cats and some bullet's.
God this stuff adds up so fast! But you gotta love it.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Nick
So that big of a cam that you have drives fine on the street? How bad is that much lift on your springs? I think I want to get a cam a little bigger than the 224, something along the lines of what you have, but I'm worried about going through springs all the time being a daily driver. And I also need to see what kind of heads would do well with that large of a cam. And on top of that how well will that type of cam react to lets say a 150 shot of juice? And before I do any of this I am going to need LT's, high flow cats and some bullet's.
God this stuff adds up so fast! But you gotta love it.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Nick
Last edited by z289899; 10-25-2003 at 05:40 PM.
#28
IMHO, to benefit from a bigger cam you will definitly need LT's and a good y with perhaps C/OUT. Not to mention tuning. As a matter of fact I would do these before the cam (- tuning), and with the cam you have to upgrade the valvetrain, and the timing gear and the oil pump and the heads, and with juice, you have to do fuel pump, and LOL with all that you'll need better brakes.
#29
Originally Posted by z289899
LOL. South FL. that isn't what I meant. I mean having a cam that is just too big for the street, the lope I don't mind at all, it's when it becomes hard to control the thing is what I am concerned about. When you basically have to rev the thing way too high just to take off. And then when you do you are basically going to rear end the guy in front of you.
So that big of a cam that you have drives fine on the street? How bad is that much lift on your springs? I think I want to get a cam a little bigger than the 224, something along the lines of what you have, but I'm worried about going through springs all the time being a daily driver. And I also need to see what kind of heads would do well with that large of a cam. And on top of that how well will that type of cam react to lets say a 150 shot of juice? And before I do any of this I am going to need LT's, high flow cats and some bullet's.
God this stuff adds up so fast! But you gotta love it.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Nick
So that big of a cam that you have drives fine on the street? How bad is that much lift on your springs? I think I want to get a cam a little bigger than the 224, something along the lines of what you have, but I'm worried about going through springs all the time being a daily driver. And I also need to see what kind of heads would do well with that large of a cam. And on top of that how well will that type of cam react to lets say a 150 shot of juice? And before I do any of this I am going to need LT's, high flow cats and some bullet's.
God this stuff adds up so fast! But you gotta love it.
Thanks for all the help guys.
Nick
This cam has less aggresive lobe profiles, therefore the high lift values are somewhat muted regarding spring life. Look around if you want something a bit bigger than a 224. TR230, MTI X1, TSP has a few grinds also.
As I said before though, the TSP231/237 loves the juice.
Good luck!
#31
Originally Posted by Super Mario
hard lope is the best part of the cam? i prefer the power, personally. but that's just me.
Of course if I had an M6, i might have gone with more lope, so i could take advantage of the higher Hps at 6500rpm+ and with juice I could stick it to the "Ricers" from a roll (This where I'm at a disadvantage with my A4 )
#32
Yeah I know I need LT's and a cutout before I get the cam, I'm already planning on that.
That and a new rear end, I just want to have some more knowledge about cams before I go picking one out. I think I like the idea of that 231/237 with a shot of juice though. What kind of ramp rate, LSA, and lift does that cam have?
And I agree, I want the power more than the lope, the lope is just a bonus
4th Gen, I've already got powerslots and hawk pads, steel braided lines, etc. Stopping isn't a problem anymore, now it's just traction and going faster! I thought that 98's already had better fuel pumps than 99+? That's why their fuel system could handle the 150 while the 99+ could only handle 125 without going bigger on the fuel pump?
Thanks for all the help guys.
Black Formula 01 sorry, didn't mean to steal the thread or anything.
That and a new rear end, I just want to have some more knowledge about cams before I go picking one out. I think I like the idea of that 231/237 with a shot of juice though. What kind of ramp rate, LSA, and lift does that cam have?
And I agree, I want the power more than the lope, the lope is just a bonus
4th Gen, I've already got powerslots and hawk pads, steel braided lines, etc. Stopping isn't a problem anymore, now it's just traction and going faster! I thought that 98's already had better fuel pumps than 99+? That's why their fuel system could handle the 150 while the 99+ could only handle 125 without going bigger on the fuel pump?
Thanks for all the help guys.
Black Formula 01 sorry, didn't mean to steal the thread or anything.
#35
Originally Posted by z289899
Yeah I know I need LT's and a cutout before I get the cam, I'm already planning on that.
That and a new rear end, I just want to have some more knowledge about cams before I go picking one out. I think I like the idea of that 231/237 with a shot of juice though. What kind of ramp rate, LSA, and lift does that cam have?
And I agree, I want the power more than the lope, the lope is just a bonus
4th Gen, I've already got powerslots and hawk pads, steel braided lines, etc. Stopping isn't a problem anymore, now it's just traction and going faster! I thought that 98's already had better fuel pumps than 99+? That's why their fuel system could handle the 150 while the 99+ could only handle 125 without going bigger on the fuel pump?
Thanks for all the help guys.
Black Formula 01 sorry, didn't mean to steal the thread or anything.
That and a new rear end, I just want to have some more knowledge about cams before I go picking one out. I think I like the idea of that 231/237 with a shot of juice though. What kind of ramp rate, LSA, and lift does that cam have?
And I agree, I want the power more than the lope, the lope is just a bonus
4th Gen, I've already got powerslots and hawk pads, steel braided lines, etc. Stopping isn't a problem anymore, now it's just traction and going faster! I thought that 98's already had better fuel pumps than 99+? That's why their fuel system could handle the 150 while the 99+ could only handle 125 without going bigger on the fuel pump?
Thanks for all the help guys.
Black Formula 01 sorry, didn't mean to steal the thread or anything.
That cam will put you with bolt ons in the neighborhood of 430 rwhp N/A if not more, add 125 rwhp and you'll end up with around 550 +rwhps, way more than the stock pump can handle. Not to mention that pump if still stock, is over 5 years old, do you want to take the risk? You be the You will even have to go with bigger injectors with the "juice"
On the bottle I'm 500+ with a 220 cam/NOS, and I had to retard the timming (Therefore my nicname) because I was way too lean at WOT/juice.
#36
Very good point, see this is why I ask questions! I don't think about stuff like that. I forgot to add in the cam and stuff. So I'll need bigger pump and to be on the safe side 42# injectors? From what I've gathered on here Walbro makes some of the best pumps? I'll want to make sure I have more than enough in that dept. I guess. And also I understand I should go with an intank pump? Because an in-line pump will still have to suck through the stock one in the tank? So much planning to do, so little money to do it with! lol. But I'll get there.
Oh yeah, on a good note, I think I'm going to go to VMP this friday and try racing this thing for the first time, wish me luck.
And thanks again.
Nick
Oh yeah, on a good note, I think I'm going to go to VMP this friday and try racing this thing for the first time, wish me luck.
And thanks again.
Nick
#38
oh I deffinately will. I'm going with a buddy that has a 99 mustang gt with a charger pushin 17psi. He's got 200+ time slips so he's going to help me out some. And to think I used to beat him a year ago with my 99Z completely stock and his decked out except for the charger. Then he blew a plug, cracked the fuel rail and set the whole car ablaze and decided it was time for a major upgrade. lol. yeah I'd say. The funny thing is, he has been running 12 flat all year and just can not break the damn thing into the 11's. It will be a lot cooler this weekend so we will see if he can do it. Even though he's got a mustang I'd still like to see him do it. He's put a lot of work into that thing. We'll have quite a few guys going, a few f-bods too I think, I'll let ya'll know how we do!
Nick
Nick