How much HP gain from free ram air mod?
11-06-2003, 05:54 PM
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a fram air filter is maintainence
not a mod
and fra adds like .5hp, not 5hp
at least thats what the butt-dyno tells me
and thats .5hp at the crank, too
joking. have no idea what the FRA adds,
but i couldnt tell a difference, even at 135mph
not a mod
and fra adds like .5hp, not 5hp
at least thats what the butt-dyno tells me
and thats .5hp at the crank, too
joking. have no idea what the FRA adds,
but i couldnt tell a difference, even at 135mph
11-06-2003, 06:15 PM
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In the Magazine GM High Tech Performance, they did they 5 free mods to a 2002 TA M6 and achieved 10 rwhp. I think they cut out the bottom of the lid, descreened the MAF and did something about a radiator hose. I think the also ported the TB.
I don't think I'd do any of this stuff if its a daily driver...theirs just to much of a risk with dirt and stuff...especially if you drive in the wet or dusty climate.
Ed
I don't think I'd do any of this stuff if its a daily driver...theirs just to much of a risk with dirt and stuff...especially if you drive in the wet or dusty climate.
Ed
11-07-2003, 12:12 AM
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Originally Posted by unit213
Post count has nothing to do with it. Being new to LS1's certainly does however.
agreed....
ps i have been researching ls1's since 97 and working on them since 99
been doing motor work for 10 years now only on f-bodys
owned 79 ta
owned 81 ta (frame off resto)
owned 95 form
owned 97 form (still have)
worked on for friend 99 ta and 98 cam
owned 02 ws6 (still have)
hope you dont find this new to ls1's or f-bodys
11-07-2003, 12:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Stone0fFire
and fra adds like .5hp, not 5hp
at least thats what the butt-dyno tells me
and thats .5hp at the crank, too
joking. have no idea what the FRA adds,
but i couldnt tell a difference, even at 135mph
at least thats what the butt-dyno tells me
and thats .5hp at the crank, too
joking. have no idea what the FRA adds,
but i couldnt tell a difference, even at 135mph
butt-o-meter usually only picks up 10+hp
usually you cant feel a 5 hp diff...
11-07-2003, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by Ackattack1
I did all the free mods on my 99 T/A including porting the MAFS. After reading some people's problems with it, I have not done it on my '01 Formula
hmmm... have you HAD any probs with your 99???
if not why would you trust someone on the internet b4 you trust your own eyes?
not flaming just wondering?
11-07-2003, 06:04 PM
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The throttle body bypass and egr cut are just common sense (unless you live in alaska or something).
If you want ram air, buy it/build it if you want to see a real difference. I'm getting the fast toys ram air + lid myself.
About the maf descreen, well I'm not sure yet. I mean, will it do anything? Probably not much if any. Could it hurt a M6 car? I've never seen anyone saying anything bad about the mod on those.
Throttle body port/polish. Couldn't possibly hurt, and might help just a little up top.
!egr; !air - well if nothing else it reduces weight
!mcdonalds lunches - 100 lbs is at least a .1, so every little bit helps
If you want ram air, buy it/build it if you want to see a real difference. I'm getting the fast toys ram air + lid myself.
About the maf descreen, well I'm not sure yet. I mean, will it do anything? Probably not much if any. Could it hurt a M6 car? I've never seen anyone saying anything bad about the mod on those.
Throttle body port/polish. Couldn't possibly hurt, and might help just a little up top.
!egr; !air - well if nothing else it reduces weight
!mcdonalds lunches - 100 lbs is at least a .1, so every little bit helps
11-07-2003, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by z98
About the maf descreen, well I'm not sure yet. I mean, will it do anything? Probably not much if any. Could it hurt a M6 car? I've never seen anyone saying anything bad about the mod on those.
. the gains dont warrent the potential tuning problems that can arrise.
11-07-2003, 09:02 PM
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Well I could run a stock airlid with a high dollar 427 LS1, and probably be in the 10's with it.
What does that tell you?
Absolutely nothing.
Would you still recommend it? I mean, if you can run 10's on it, it's just fine as is right?
Of course not.
But like I said, I'm not sure yet. I'll probably be more inclined to pop it out after LS1edit comes in. It'll be here soon. Early christmas for me
What does that tell you?
Absolutely nothing.
Would you still recommend it? I mean, if you can run 10's on it, it's just fine as is right?
Of course not.
But like I said, I'm not sure yet. I'll probably be more inclined to pop it out after LS1edit comes in. It'll be here soon. Early christmas for me
11-07-2003, 09:04 PM
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Originally Posted by z98
Well I could run a stock airlid with a high dollar 427 LS1, and probably be in the 10's with it.
What does that tell you?
Absolutely nothing.
Would you still recommend it? I mean, if you can run 10's on it, it's just fine as is right?
Of course not.
But like I said, I'm not sure yet. I'll probably be more inclined to pop it out after LS1edit comes in. It'll be here soon. Early christmas for me
What does that tell you?
Absolutely nothing.
Would you still recommend it? I mean, if you can run 10's on it, it's just fine as is right?
Of course not.
But like I said, I'm not sure yet. I'll probably be more inclined to pop it out after LS1edit comes in. It'll be here soon. Early christmas for me
11-07-2003, 10:41 PM
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z98 great points....
jrp look like i said b4 ported maf ends are CHEAP
its a great mod when you have little money and are just starting out.... i have had NO tuning issues on mine so i cant tell you what the ppl that did have probs did wronge.... but mine works fine... if his dont then WHEN he goes heads cam then he can swap back in the stock ends if he wants .... but why the hell would he leave 5 hp on the table right now when he has stock heads cam???
jrp look like i said b4 ported maf ends are CHEAP
its a great mod when you have little money and are just starting out.... i have had NO tuning issues on mine so i cant tell you what the ppl that did have probs did wronge.... but mine works fine... if his dont then WHEN he goes heads cam then he can swap back in the stock ends if he wants .... but why the hell would he leave 5 hp on the table right now when he has stock heads cam???
