Future Value
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Originally Posted by samz28
the last model? The lt1's were the last model. Sooner or later the camaro will be back, and we'll be the last model.
but come on. The Lt1 figures have been driven down by LS1s.
There is no successor and if there is it may be a FWD V6.
Regardless that is besides the point and as I intially said
"prime" examples of every generation will hold a value.
NO it won't be higher than what you paid for it.
Going back the the vette comparision while average c4's
are low, good money is still in Zr1s and Grand Sports.
And if you don't know a convertabile will always hold its
value better blame it on impulse buying or whatever thats
a fact.
I will just sit on my Hawk and enjoy it on the weekends. If I sell it I will sell it for what the market is at, or hold out until someone specifically wants that type of car that I own. The value on my car at the moment is what I paid for it. So If I sold it now I wouldn't take a hit on it. Also having a LS6 engine from GM in the car that I didn't have to pay for helps and the original one is in the garage.
Its easy to predict the trends. Look at how cars from 20-30 years ago are priced relative to their same-era counterparts.
Colors of the vehicle typically do not raise/lower the cost of a collectible. I'm sure many of you have seen nasty brown or puke green collector cars that sold for top dollar due to their condition and model, not really the color involved. A fully restored red (very common) 69 SS-396 is still worth more than a dusk blue (rare) 69 SS-350. The model type has more impact than color.
For performance vehicles, manual transmissions will always be more desirable and sought after. Automatics get more importance with luxury vehicles. Most diehard collectors would continue shopping before buying an automatic performance car if manuals were available the same year/make/model.
The more factory options, the better. If you have all the options, then you probably got the rare options also.
Anniversary models, limited editions, etc... always good for collectors in the future. I wouldn't mind having a 30th white Trans Am convertible myself. I doubt I'll sell my 35th LE convertible. I think it would be cool to drive around even 20-30 years from now. Its already somewhat rare and its only a year old.
WS6 Formulas and Firehawk Formulas will be THE car to collect. Very few built, very rare. Formulas are just rare period (less than 2K total built per year).
Z28s will all end up as gutted drag cars
Convertibles always hold their collectibility better. Drop tops are just cool!
I know one car I'd like to own, a 1998 Sport Gold Metallic Camaro SS convertible. That would be an ultra-rare combination. Of course, if it were an A4, I'd pass.
Tony
Colors of the vehicle typically do not raise/lower the cost of a collectible. I'm sure many of you have seen nasty brown or puke green collector cars that sold for top dollar due to their condition and model, not really the color involved. A fully restored red (very common) 69 SS-396 is still worth more than a dusk blue (rare) 69 SS-350. The model type has more impact than color.
For performance vehicles, manual transmissions will always be more desirable and sought after. Automatics get more importance with luxury vehicles. Most diehard collectors would continue shopping before buying an automatic performance car if manuals were available the same year/make/model.
The more factory options, the better. If you have all the options, then you probably got the rare options also.
Anniversary models, limited editions, etc... always good for collectors in the future. I wouldn't mind having a 30th white Trans Am convertible myself. I doubt I'll sell my 35th LE convertible. I think it would be cool to drive around even 20-30 years from now. Its already somewhat rare and its only a year old.
WS6 Formulas and Firehawk Formulas will be THE car to collect. Very few built, very rare. Formulas are just rare period (less than 2K total built per year).
Z28s will all end up as gutted drag cars
Convertibles always hold their collectibility better. Drop tops are just cool!
I know one car I'd like to own, a 1998 Sport Gold Metallic Camaro SS convertible. That would be an ultra-rare combination. Of course, if it were an A4, I'd pass.
Tony
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There is an inherent flaw in nearly all "rare" colors.
The reason why they are rare is because no one wanted
them. Not trashing anyones sport gold or MMM but
simply talking markets. Hell I don't like red.
Also there is a bit of a contradiction saying that lots of
options is a selling/collectable point and calling the
"stipper" model THE car to collect. Once again they
didn't make them because they didn't sell them, hence
people wanted something else. Its like 90% of all things
labeled as "limited" are only limited to the amount they
can sell.
The reason why they are rare is because no one wanted
them. Not trashing anyones sport gold or MMM but
simply talking markets. Hell I don't like red.
Also there is a bit of a contradiction saying that lots of
options is a selling/collectable point and calling the
"stipper" model THE car to collect. Once again they
didn't make them because they didn't sell them, hence
people wanted something else. Its like 90% of all things
labeled as "limited" are only limited to the amount they
can sell.
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Um, everyone loves the Hugger orange.
I saw one on the road the other day, I thought they only existed on LS1tech.com.
My money says that someone looking for the orange is willing to pay for it.
Hell, I would love to have one! I can't think of a better color to paint a camaro.
And maybe you need to check up on this rare color thing before making statements like that. I think they could have sold just as many orange, pewter, and that cool green color f-bodies each year as the other colors (well maybe not the 'bird in orange, some things are just wrong!).
I saw one on the road the other day, I thought they only existed on LS1tech.com.
My money says that someone looking for the orange is willing to pay for it.
Hell, I would love to have one! I can't think of a better color to paint a camaro.
And maybe you need to check up on this rare color thing before making statements like that. I think they could have sold just as many orange, pewter, and that cool green color f-bodies each year as the other colors (well maybe not the 'bird in orange, some things are just wrong!).
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Remember there is a huge difference in thinking
something is cool and going out and buying it.
You bought white.
The production numbers color breakdown is no
secret. Pewter was one of the better sellers.
You are absolutely right someone looking
for a Hugger will pay, but you can say that about anything.
The question's how many are looking. I work with a lady
with a hugger vert with a white top. She has been trying
to sell it and guess what. Meanwhile a long time ago
I guy with a Viper posted he would trade it straight up
for a hugger vert with a white top.
something is cool and going out and buying it.
You bought white.
The production numbers color breakdown is no
secret. Pewter was one of the better sellers.
You are absolutely right someone looking
for a Hugger will pay, but you can say that about anything.
The question's how many are looking. I work with a lady
with a hugger vert with a white top. She has been trying
to sell it and guess what. Meanwhile a long time ago
I guy with a Viper posted he would trade it straight up
for a hugger vert with a white top.
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I'd have been in heaven if I could have found a hugger orange hard top M6.
But I'm happy with my car though. Cheap and fast, keeps the ricers, wanna be's, and mustangs at bay.
Now, I'm ready to make it really fast.
Which will probably depreciate it to nothing, but oh well. It'll probably have 150,000 miles on it anyway before I'm done.
But I'm happy with my car though. Cheap and fast, keeps the ricers, wanna be's, and mustangs at bay.
Now, I'm ready to make it really fast.
Which will probably depreciate it to nothing, but oh well. It'll probably have 150,000 miles on it anyway before I'm done.
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From: Houston
You can just bet any F-body you get will go down in value I had a 98 Formula I got with 35k miles I got it for $11,200 back in 02 sold it this year for $9,600 with 58Kmiles on it and a bunch of mods I spent $ on. All I know is GM better not come out with a watered down front wheel drive car and throw a camaro or firebird badge on it and ruin another classic ie.....Impala,GTO ect.
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"watered down front wheel drive car and throw a camaro or firebird badge on it and ruin another classic ie.....Impala,GTO ect."
GTO != watered down front drive
It might not be as nice looking as the original, but it'll be an aluminum pushrod V8 under the hood!
GTO != watered down front drive
It might not be as nice looking as the original, but it'll be an aluminum pushrod V8 under the hood!
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I think the SS's will skyrocket in price here's why:
1998- Camaro total production: 54,026
1998- Camaro Z28 total production: 17,028
1998- Camaro SS total production : (3,025)
1999- 42,098- Z28 - 12,368 SS- (4,829)
2000- 45,461 Z28 -11,252 SS- (8,913)
2001- 23,021-Z28- 4,116 SS- (6,332)
2002- 44,777- Z28-12,906 SS (11,191)
The 98 looks pretty good first year new body style and LS-1 motor and lowest SS production!!! I know about low production l just sold a 1970 AMX (4,116)produced. Car was a project. $3,500 new. Sold it for $21,500
1998- Camaro total production: 54,026
1998- Camaro Z28 total production: 17,028
1998- Camaro SS total production : (3,025)
1999- 42,098- Z28 - 12,368 SS- (4,829)
2000- 45,461 Z28 -11,252 SS- (8,913)
2001- 23,021-Z28- 4,116 SS- (6,332)
2002- 44,777- Z28-12,906 SS (11,191)
The 98 looks pretty good first year new body style and LS-1 motor and lowest SS production!!! I know about low production l just sold a 1970 AMX (4,116)produced. Car was a project. $3,500 new. Sold it for $21,500
