2000 Z28 vs 2000 SS factory horsepower
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The 2000 SS did not come with a functional ram air hood giving it any more horsepower than the regular Z28 did it? Couple Google searches say that the SS has 15 more HP
I bet a shot that they have the same HP
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I bet a shot that they have the same HP
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i believe the only difference is the ss had the option of a 3.42 rear gear.. and also in 2001 i think the ss changed the intake to the ls6 when the z28 had the stock ls1. i think those where the power differences. if you figure out what the z28s dynoed at stock some where like 310 to the wheels. that being said that would mean giving a 20% drivetrain loss it would be a 372hp car.. which would mean they were the same exact power as the vette as well
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Official "ratings" for 2000 was Z28 at 305hp and the SS at 320hp.
Now for real offical is it's an LS1, so I think 2000 was actually rated 345hp in the Vette, so 345 in Z28 and SS as well.
Of course individual dyno results will yield plenty of different #'s. The 2000 Z28 A4 I just picked up dyno'd 317hp to the wheels with the Free Ram Air mod, what appears to be an SS Cat-back with a flowmaster (judging by the exhaust tips) and a 3.42 rear end.
My 2001 SS M6 back in the day when stock with a lid and thermostat made 309 to the wheels. Surprised me when the Z made more.
All M6's came with a 3.42 rear end, whether it be a Z28 or SS. A4 cars were either 2.73 or 3.23.
Also 2001 the LS6 intake was on all LS1's.
Now for real offical is it's an LS1, so I think 2000 was actually rated 345hp in the Vette, so 345 in Z28 and SS as well.
Of course individual dyno results will yield plenty of different #'s. The 2000 Z28 A4 I just picked up dyno'd 317hp to the wheels with the Free Ram Air mod, what appears to be an SS Cat-back with a flowmaster (judging by the exhaust tips) and a 3.42 rear end.
My 2001 SS M6 back in the day when stock with a lid and thermostat made 309 to the wheels. Surprised me when the Z made more.
i believe the only difference is the ss had the option of a 3.42 rear gear.. and also in 2001 i think the ss changed the intake to the ls6 when the z28 had the stock ls1. i think those where the power differences. if you figure out what the z28s dynoed at stock some where like 310 to the wheels. that being said that would mean giving a 20% drivetrain loss it would be a 372hp car.. which would mean they were the same exact power as the vette as well
All M6's came with a 3.42 rear end, whether it be a Z28 or SS. A4 cars were either 2.73 or 3.23.
Also 2001 the LS6 intake was on all LS1's.
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i believe the only difference is the ss had the option of a 3.42 rear gear.. and also in 2001 i think the ss changed the intake to the ls6 when the z28 had the stock ls1. i think those where the power differences. if you figure out what the z28s dynoed at stock some where like 310 to the wheels. that being said that would mean giving a 20% drivetrain loss it would be a 372hp car.. which would mean they were the same exact power as the vette as well
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i believe the only difference is the ss had the option of a 3.42 rear gear.. and also in 2001 i think the ss changed the intake to the ls6 when the z28 had the stock ls1. i think those where the power differences. if you figure out what the z28s dynoed at stock some where like 310 to the wheels. that being said that would mean giving a 20% drivetrain loss it would be a 372hp car.. which would mean they were the same exact power as the vette as well
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The SS doesn't actually make more HP than the Z28, or a Vette for that matter. The "ratings" were as such so they could charge more for the SS and keep the Vette on top in the HP game.
Granted some of the other goodies on the SS made it more in price as well, ie Hood, Spoiler, wheels.
Granted some of the other goodies on the SS made it more in price as well, ie Hood, Spoiler, wheels.
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you could get the exact same exhaust on the ss as well as the z28....its not the exhaust, listen to what these people are saying.....any ls1 car can dyno differantly from day to day because of weather, the oil, hell, it might just be in a bad mood....soo....ya....the like everyone else said....as I was getting mad at the stupid comments, the differances are in 2001+ all LS1's had the LS6 intake, .."i still also heard rumors ls6 springs to go with the intake but....that may have been more misinformation"......
01+ LS1's typically make 290-315 hp in stock trim to the wheels...290 being the lowest I have even seen....320 being the highest but not typical.... The engines themselves are probably putting down closer to 345 hp in the Vettes and Fbodys...There is no differance... Oh wait yes ....Vettes have a DBW throttle body and the fbodys have a mechanical...
01+ LS1's typically make 290-315 hp in stock trim to the wheels...290 being the lowest I have even seen....320 being the highest but not typical.... The engines themselves are probably putting down closer to 345 hp in the Vettes and Fbodys...There is no differance... Oh wait yes ....Vettes have a DBW throttle body and the fbodys have a mechanical...
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I think the SS had different shocks too. Someone may know the answer to that.
Also the 98-00 LS1's weren't mad inferior to the 01+'s, look at the my sig for the Z28. Only thing done to the car is Free Ram air mod, Dirty *** K&N, SS style exhaust with flowmaster and 3.42 rear. It made more than my 01 ss did stock with lid which was 309.
Also the 98-00 LS1's weren't mad inferior to the 01+'s, look at the my sig for the Z28. Only thing done to the car is Free Ram air mod, Dirty *** K&N, SS style exhaust with flowmaster and 3.42 rear. It made more than my 01 ss did stock with lid which was 309.
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Let me clear up on the SS package. Basically for $3000 you got a hood (very light compared to the factory Z steel hood) spoiler and silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels. For an additional price you could include : $1100 Bilstein suspension with way better shocks (yellow) springs, bigger sway bars, and lowering springs. I know this bc I have the sales brochure and my car was optioned with it. It handles tons better then stock Z28s and is proven on the skidpad. Also you had the chrome wheel package for $1000. You could upgrade your silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels to chrome. They also had the catback upgrade for $700, known as the dual/dual that was rated for more hp (10 they claim, for a total of 335 for 01). You could also get an SS keychain, car cover, and embroidered floormats and dash plaque, also all SSs may have gotten these small items, Im not completely sure on that. My "additional content" SLP sticker states key fob and car cover as if they are extra items so Im not sure. Some cars may have come with SLP lids too. SS grille was $250. 1LE "road race" suspension for $1500. Also, Center Mount Exhaust was an option. And BFG G-Force tires for $900. All SSs weren't just "hood and spoiler" And you got a build number to verify SLP optioned installs. And yes the ram air hood was functional, the problem is, the air has to U turn twice before it gets to the filter so it probably doesnt work that great.
All M6 got 3.42
All SS A4 got 3.23s
Some Z A4s got 2.73 gears - known by steel driveshaft, non Z rated tires, and no 1st gear selector on center console.
All 3.23 and 3.42 got aluminum driveshaft.
Vette LS1 intake had no EGR, F-bodys did.
And one more thing, there is no such thing as an SLP SS bc they all went to SLP. Every damn one. Every real SS was an SLP SS. Only cars that carried "additional content" had a passenger door sticker stating what extra options they got.
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So much BS info here. Some good info mixed amongsts though ![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
Let me clear up on the SS package. Basically for $3000 you got a hood (very light compared to the factory Z steel hood) spoiler and silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels. For an additional price you could include : $1100 Bilstein suspension with way better shocks (yellow) springs, bigger sway bars, and lowering springs. I know this bc I have the sales brochure and my car was optioned with it. It handles tons better then stock Z28s and is proven on the skidpad. Also you had the chrome wheel package for $1000. You could upgrade your silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels to chrome. They also had the catback upgrade for $700, known as the dual/dual that was rated for more hp (10 they claim, for a total of 335 for 01). You could also get an SS keychain, car cover, and embroidered floormats and dash plaque, also all SSs may have gotten these small items, Im not completely sure on that. My "additional content" SLP sticker states key fob and car cover as if they are extra items so Im not sure. Some cars may have come with SLP lids too. SS grille was $250. 1LE "road race" suspension for $1500. Also, Center Mount Exhaust was an option. And BFG G-Force tires for $900. All SSs weren't just "hood and spoiler" And you got a build number to verify SLP optioned installs. And yes the ram air hood was functional, the problem is, the air has to U turn twice before it gets to the filter so it probably doesnt work that great.
All M6 got 3.42
All SS A4 got 3.23s
Some Z A4s got 2.73 gears - known by steel driveshaft, non Z rated tires, and no 1st gear selector on center console.
All 3.23 and 3.42 got aluminum driveshaft.
Vette LS1 intake had no EGR, F-bodys did.
And one more thing, there is no such thing as an SLP SS bc they all went to SLP. Every damn one. Every real SS was an SLP SS. Only cars that carried "additional content" had a passenger door sticker stating what extra options they got.
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Let me clear up on the SS package. Basically for $3000 you got a hood (very light compared to the factory Z steel hood) spoiler and silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels. For an additional price you could include : $1100 Bilstein suspension with way better shocks (yellow) springs, bigger sway bars, and lowering springs. I know this bc I have the sales brochure and my car was optioned with it. It handles tons better then stock Z28s and is proven on the skidpad. Also you had the chrome wheel package for $1000. You could upgrade your silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels to chrome. They also had the catback upgrade for $700, known as the dual/dual that was rated for more hp (10 they claim, for a total of 335 for 01). You could also get an SS keychain, car cover, and embroidered floormats and dash plaque, also all SSs may have gotten these small items, Im not completely sure on that. My "additional content" SLP sticker states key fob and car cover as if they are extra items so Im not sure. Some cars may have come with SLP lids too. SS grille was $250. 1LE "road race" suspension for $1500. Also, Center Mount Exhaust was an option. And BFG G-Force tires for $900. All SSs weren't just "hood and spoiler" And you got a build number to verify SLP optioned installs. And yes the ram air hood was functional, the problem is, the air has to U turn twice before it gets to the filter so it probably doesnt work that great.
All M6 got 3.42
All SS A4 got 3.23s
Some Z A4s got 2.73 gears - known by steel driveshaft, non Z rated tires, and no 1st gear selector on center console.
All 3.23 and 3.42 got aluminum driveshaft.
Vette LS1 intake had no EGR, F-bodys did.
And one more thing, there is no such thing as an SLP SS bc they all went to SLP. Every damn one. Every real SS was an SLP SS. Only cars that carried "additional content" had a passenger door sticker stating what extra options they got.
you quoted me, on the suspension, I should have mentioned "standard".....
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So much BS info here. Some good info mixed amongsts though ![Grin](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_grin.gif)
Let me clear up on the SS package. Basically for $3000 you got a hood (very light compared to the factory Z steel hood) spoiler and silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels. For an additional price you could include : $1100 Bilstein suspension with way better shocks (yellow) springs, bigger sway bars, and lowering springs. I know this bc I have the sales brochure and my car was optioned with it. It handles tons better then stock Z28s and is proven on the skidpad. Also you had the chrome wheel package for $1000. You could upgrade your silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels to chrome. They also had the catback upgrade for $700, known as the dual/dual that was rated for more hp (10 they claim, for a total of 335 for 01). You could also get an SS keychain, car cover, and embroidered floormats and dash plaque, also all SSs may have gotten these small items, Im not completely sure on that. My "additional content" SLP sticker states key fob and car cover as if they are extra items so Im not sure. Some cars may have come with SLP lids too. SS grille was $250. 1LE "road race" suspension for $1500. Also, Center Mount Exhaust was an option. And BFG G-Force tires for $900. All SSs weren't just "hood and spoiler" And you got a build number to verify SLP optioned installs. And yes the ram air hood was functional, the problem is, the air has to U turn twice before it gets to the filter so it probably doesnt work that great.
All M6 got 3.42
All SS A4 got 3.23s
Some Z A4s got 2.73 gears - known by steel driveshaft, non Z rated tires, and no 1st gear selector on center console.
All 3.23 and 3.42 got aluminum driveshaft.
Vette LS1 intake had no EGR, F-bodys did.
And one more thing, there is no such thing as an SLP SS bc they all went to SLP. Every damn one. Every real SS was an SLP SS. Only cars that carried "additional content" had a passenger door sticker stating what extra options they got.
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Let me clear up on the SS package. Basically for $3000 you got a hood (very light compared to the factory Z steel hood) spoiler and silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels. For an additional price you could include : $1100 Bilstein suspension with way better shocks (yellow) springs, bigger sway bars, and lowering springs. I know this bc I have the sales brochure and my car was optioned with it. It handles tons better then stock Z28s and is proven on the skidpad. Also you had the chrome wheel package for $1000. You could upgrade your silver 5 or 10 spoke wheels to chrome. They also had the catback upgrade for $700, known as the dual/dual that was rated for more hp (10 they claim, for a total of 335 for 01). You could also get an SS keychain, car cover, and embroidered floormats and dash plaque, also all SSs may have gotten these small items, Im not completely sure on that. My "additional content" SLP sticker states key fob and car cover as if they are extra items so Im not sure. Some cars may have come with SLP lids too. SS grille was $250. 1LE "road race" suspension for $1500. Also, Center Mount Exhaust was an option. And BFG G-Force tires for $900. All SSs weren't just "hood and spoiler" And you got a build number to verify SLP optioned installs. And yes the ram air hood was functional, the problem is, the air has to U turn twice before it gets to the filter so it probably doesnt work that great.
All M6 got 3.42
All SS A4 got 3.23s
Some Z A4s got 2.73 gears - known by steel driveshaft, non Z rated tires, and no 1st gear selector on center console.
All 3.23 and 3.42 got aluminum driveshaft.
Vette LS1 intake had no EGR, F-bodys did.
And one more thing, there is no such thing as an SLP SS bc they all went to SLP. Every damn one. Every real SS was an SLP SS. Only cars that carried "additional content" had a passenger door sticker stating what extra options they got.
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I dont know about Zs suspension as a whole. but I thought all LS Zs got the orange DeCarbon shocks. And man they ride like complete dog **** on broken/uneven pavement. Maybe Im spoiled on the SLP suspension, I dunno.
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When doing research, I found that to "cut costs" the 2001/2002 v6's camaro's got the same suspension as the z28's unlike in prior years because they needed to save cost as the car was not going to be produced, I assume this went for all Fbody's as well..
However, the steering parts are a little different as a few people have found out doing ls swaps into v6 cars... something about the rack?? I dunno..
Of course you couldn't get the 1le with the base model I don't think but...hey...my v6 Camaro handles about 3x better then the v8...something I still havn't figured out...