Turning 16 in couple months...
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Ok, here is my other .02....I feel that if a younger person (16-17) wants a nice car, they have to prove they can..handle it, and take car of it properly. As mentioned before, i have a 97 Z28 M6. Since i pay for everything myself, i take better car of the car then say someone who has a fbody given to them. Its a fact, Somone whos actually pays for there crap, and understands if they screw up (accidents, tickets, etc.) then they are gonna have to pay the price. There has been many times when i have showed off, but its to a certain extent. I feel very comfortable driving my car, and am not affraid to take the car to its limits. If i wasn't comfortable, then i would not do whatever it was i wasn't comfortable about. Take this into conderation..my buddy is a little older than me, his parents bought him a s10 xtreme for his first car, it was nice, he did a system etc. But was mad one day at his g/f, and we around this corner, fishtaled around, and flipped it. He was fine with only a screw from where his arm pushed against the roof to brace himself, he had his seatbelt on and was fine (it was a minor scratch) well he got a 04 mustang GT. he has longtubes off road h pipe, borlas, pro 5.0, and an intake. Its a big competition between him and I. but the difference is, i pay for all my crap, and he is spoiled. Well we were goin down rt 70, and he is doin like 130 @ like 1:30 in the afternoon, i went to about 100, and then because i knew it was to conjested slowed down. My point is, i realized that if i went 130mph after him, i could have wrecked, my insurance would have skyrocked, and i could have been killed or even worse killed someone innocent. IF he would have paid for his crap too, he too would have thought the same as I. All im saying is if u pay for ur own car, ur gonna treat it with more respect. Sure, i street race, show off etc, but therre is a limit to my fun, and a time and a place. People that are 16 with WS6's/SS's that are given to them, 90% of them dont care as much as compared to someone with the same car who pays for it all. Im not saying that EVERYONE who is spoiled acts like this, but alot of people do. My buddy has YET to put money into his GT, its all his parents money. And when i beat him, it feels great. ANY person is gonna have fun, but just dont endager others, and make sure u have enought responsibility to accept that. im done
, sorry for the rambling lol
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No, when it comes to cars, we both pay the same. I pay insurence, and the down payment. When it comes to other things though, he gets those for free. He gets more for christmas, and ather things like that, a **** load of crap I don't have that he isn't even thankful for. Now there are talks of him getting his car back before the end of the school year, which means in the next month or so!!!! 2 wrecks, 2 tickets, 2 cars, 2 years. Do you see a pattern? Me 0 wrecks, 0 tickets, 1 car, 1 year. I don't consider hitting a curb a wreck, but some do. The police were not involved in that. I just think I get a little shafted, but I don't care, I love my God Damn Car.
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Originally Posted by Swifster
If any agent pulled this, it is strickly to line his own pockets.
I don't know about you, but most families don't let Jr. drive the most expensive car.
If mom & dad are financing Jr.'s Camaro, they're usually driving Corvettes, Cadillacs or Mercedes.
They'll (underwriters) rate on the car Jr. was driving at the time of the accident.
What side are you taking? Adjusters check coverages. If the driver isn't listed it gets flagged and sent to underwriting. If the driver is related and lives in the same household, the insurance goes up. I've NEVER seen a claim denied because of this unless the driver was previously excluded under the policy.
Again, where did you want to go with this? A title search is not the first thing done when a claim is filed.
If a claim is in SIU, it's because of fraud, not a kid driving mom or dad's car.
Most theft's don't even get to SIU.
And unless the collision was a possible set up (staged) to collect on medical costs, collisions, regardless of the exposure, will not be sent to SIU. Under what possible curcumstance do you think was cause a file to be sent to SIU on a collision (car hits two parked cars, a truck, a pedestrian, and a building. Adjusters would be handling the property damage and medical bills. Why SIU?)?
it is obviously up to the claim handler to send something to SIU.
dumbass? Unfortunately, most companies keep the sales and claims people seperated in terms of knowledge. I don't pretend to know sales and most sales people don't pretend to know claims.
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Damilio, I'm 16 and I have a '00 SS. My insurance is with allstate and runs about 3k a year. I cant speak for everyone but its sweet having an ss for a first car. I know im gonna here alot of crap for posting this.
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Ok, I was in the same boat you are in now. When i turned 16 my parents bought me a 2002 Firebird v6. Then a few months ago my father bought me a 2002 Trans Am WS6 6-speed. Everyone says 16 year olds dont need fast cars and that if they had one when they were this age they would be dead. Well, im 16 and not dead. I know how to handle the power and dont go full throttle off every stop light. Just be smart. A LS1 is FAST but by no means uncontrollable. Just be smart and dont do anything stupid and in the rain drive SLOOOOW! Just my .02 cents!
Edit: Forgot to add, right now my insurance is around $2000/year because im insured on my fathers(my old) v6. Once he purchases the GTO he wants, my insurance will be around $4000/year because I will be full time on the Trans Am instead of part-time.
Edit: Forgot to add, right now my insurance is around $2000/year because im insured on my fathers(my old) v6. Once he purchases the GTO he wants, my insurance will be around $4000/year because I will be full time on the Trans Am instead of part-time.
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Originally Posted by hrsepwraddict00
Damilio, I'm 16 and I have a '00 SS. My insurance is with allstate and runs about 3k a year. I cant speak for everyone but its sweet having an ss for a first car. I know im gonna here alot of crap for posting this.
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Im 18 and my first car was my charger, and didnt pay insurance for it my parants did, but now that i have the Z i have to pay for everything, but the car is under my mom and dads name, so i pay like 95 bucks a month for AAA full coverage, and 300 for the car a month.
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I got my car the day I turned 17, I had a 01 V6 Camaro before. Almost 18 now (Feb 09) Ive never wrecked my car or even got pulled over in it. Respect the power and you will be fine.
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If I had either one of these cars in my sig when I was your age, I'd be dead or paralyzed. No question. My '66 Dodge Dart GT with a 318 V8 nearly got me killed a couple of times because I was screwing around and racing it on the streets (I was 17). And that thing maybe had 150-200HP at the most.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
Be afraid. Be very afraid.
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If your just turning 16 and this is your first car I wouldn't reccomend an LS1 or LT1. Maybe start off with an old iroc or RS to get the hang of things but stepping into a 300 hp LS1 that is RWD is no easy task if its your first car. I'm 18 and have been in 3 previous cars before gettin my ls1. Most of all, respect the car and what it can do. Be careful.
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Originally Posted by Swifster
If you're just getting your license you need to remember a few things. First is the cost of the car. While this is a one-time expense, you can make a better decision than a F-Body or Mustang. Even V-6's are expensive to insure. As much as it may be to digest, the smart move would be a base Neon, Escort, Cavalier, etc. They may not have a lot of flash, but you can pick up dependable, low mileage examples of these cars for less than $3000.
Second, the worst thing your agent (or his underwriter) can see when you apply for insurance, are these words or abreviations; V-8, turbo, supercharged, Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, Firebird, Porsche (even old 924 and 944 models), GT, Z-28, Z-24, etc. The cost to insure one of the models above would be about 25% or 35% of the cost of a Camaro Z-28. It's a lot harder to get into trouble with a 100 HP car vs. a 300 HP car.
The question you have to ask yourself is do you want to have money to spend on dates, movies, etc., or do you want to spend all your money on your car? If going to college, many schools won't let you keep a car on campus (bicycles only). Plus the cost of pizzas in the dorm. Buy something nice after college graduation.
Second, the worst thing your agent (or his underwriter) can see when you apply for insurance, are these words or abreviations; V-8, turbo, supercharged, Camaro, Mustang, Corvette, Firebird, Porsche (even old 924 and 944 models), GT, Z-28, Z-24, etc. The cost to insure one of the models above would be about 25% or 35% of the cost of a Camaro Z-28. It's a lot harder to get into trouble with a 100 HP car vs. a 300 HP car.
The question you have to ask yourself is do you want to have money to spend on dates, movies, etc., or do you want to spend all your money on your car? If going to college, many schools won't let you keep a car on campus (bicycles only). Plus the cost of pizzas in the dorm. Buy something nice after college graduation.
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im 17 i dont know the exact numbers but from what my parents told me my insurance did not go up at all from having a 95 bonneville to a 2000 z-28. #1 rule in my family: no matter how bad an accident dont get the insurance involved.