Whats a reasonable offer for a 2002 z28 with about 9k miles on it......excellent interior and exterior.....loaded. It was a buyback vehicle because of a faulty pcm :\

What do you guys think??




Also supsoedly the pcm was said to be faulty and replaced because of an engine stall problem.....anyone ever hear of something along those lines?

 

If GM was forced to buy it back I would be very wary of the car. I can't see them buying back a car due to a pcm issue. The story sounds a little sugar coated.

Go to kbb.com and look up private party value. It should get you in the ballpark as far as a price goes.

I would offer a couple grand less to start with and make sure you get a good warranty.

 

I could run the vin for you, if you'd like?

 

That would be great if you could do that......thanks kev

VIN: 2G1FP22G122145151

 

Here ya go. I've ran alot of Vin's and never had a lemon come back until this one. I'd stay clear.


Report Run Date: 02/16/2004
Vehicle Description 2G1FP22G122145151

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Your Vehicle's Description:
VIN: 2G1FP22G122145151
Year: 2002
Make: Chevrolet
Model: Camaro Iroc/Z28
Style/Body: 2 Door Coupe
Engine: 5.7L V8 MFI
Country of Assembly: Canada

Your Vehicle Checks Out! AutoCheck’s results for this 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Iroc/Z28(2G1FP22G122145151) show no significant Title events. When found, events often indicate past automotive damage or warnings associated with the vehicle title.

Problems Checked: Results Found
Abandoned No Abandoned Record Found
Damaged No Damaged Record Found
Fire Damage No Fire Damage Record Found
Grey Market No Grey Market Record Found
Hail Damage No Hail Damage Record Found
Insurance Loss No Insurance Loss Record Found
Junk No Junk Record Found
Rebuilt/Rebuildable No Rebuilt/Rebuildable Record Found
Salvage No Salvage Record Found

Problem Found! AutoCheck’s database for this 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Iroc/Z28(2G1FP22G122145151) found history events that indicate a significant automotive problem. These problems can indicate previous car damage, theft or other significant problems.

Problems Checked: Results Found
NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle No NHTSA Crash Test Vehicle Record Found
Frame Damage No Frame Damage Record Found
Major Damage Incident No Major Damage Incident Record Found
Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Manufacturer Buyback/Lemon Record(s) Found
Odometer Problem No Odometer Problem Record Found
Recycled No Recycled Record Found
Salvage Auction No Salvage Auction Record Found
Water Damage No Water Damage Record Found

Your Vehicle Checks Out! For this 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Iroc/Z28(2G1FP22G122145151)no indication of an odometer rollback or tampering was found. We determine odometer rollbacks by searching for records that indicate odometer reading that are less than a previously reported value. Other odometer events can report events of tampering, or possible odometer breakage.
Report Run Date: 02/16/2004

Date Reported Odometer Reading
10/29/02 12
11/14/02 1,538
09/04/03 8,459

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Problems Checked: Results Found
Accident Data No accident data available
Corrected Title No Corrected Title Record Found
Driver Education No Driver Education Record Found
Duplicate Title No Duplicate Title Record Found
Emission/Safety Inspection No Emission/Safety Inspection Record Found
Fire Damage Incident No Fire Damage Incident Record Found
Lease No Lease Record Found
Lien Lien Record(s) Found
Livery Use No Livery Use Record Found
Government Use No Government Use Record Found
Police Use No Police Use Record Found
Rental/Fleet No Rental/Fleet Record Found
Repossessed No Repossessed Record Found
Taxi Use No Taxi Use Record Found
Theft No Theft Record Found

Below are the historical events for this vehicle listed in chronological order. Any discrepancies will be in bold text.
Report Run Date: 02/16/2004

VIN 2G1FP22G122145151 2002 Chevrolet Camaro Iroc/Z28
Event Date Event Location Odometer Reading Data Source Event Detail

09/16/02 MASPETH, NY MOTOR VEHICLE DEPT. REGISTRATION EVENT/RENEWAL
10/29/02 NY 12 MOTOR VEHICLE DEPT. TITLE (Lien Reported)
11/14/02 NY 1,538 INDEPENDENT SOURCE INDEPENDENT INSPECTION
09/04/03 NY MOTOR VEHICLE DEPT. LEMON
09/04/03 NY 8,459 MOTOR VEHICLE DEPT. TITLE

 

Hahaha BINGO!


thanks for running the check........Something about finding out the car is a lemon makes you feel good and bad at the same time

 

No problem. I can get vin checks until March 15. So if your looking at any other cars and want a check, just PM me.

 

So you plan on skipping on it I assume?

 

Of course, depending on what you want to do, you might be able to get a really good deal on the car. If you want to mod it heavily and aren't worried about a warranty it might be a good car for you. You could offer like 1k less than half of the kbb price, once you tell them you know it was a lemon buyback...

 

Yeah, but don't you think the dealer will find someone who didn't check the VIN and offers like $23K??

 

Hmmmm...........im almost tempted to do what rschum is talking about.

What if it was ONLY the pcm ....i mean could make one hell of a mod car think of all the mod money saved.

 

btw.....

Heres the car acutally......

http://www.sun-chevy.com/sun6_page.t...F0418F4033E1B8


Im on long island NY so im still trying to decide whether or not its worth a trip to see the car

 

I'd pass on it.

Anyone notice that it has 97-99 wheels? You're asking for trouble if you pick that car up.

 

1) GM and the dealership has to disclose that the vehicle was a buyback. Same if it was a wrecked/salvaged/flood vehicle.

2) I work at a dealership. We have a Trailblazer Ext. that was a GM buyback and we have had it forever. Something usually has to be pretty wrong with a car (i.e., not something petty) to get GM to do a buyback on it. After they find out what was supposedly wrong they'll then sell it to a dealership to have them resell.

 

Having purchased several cars that were considered salvaged for one reason or other I can tell you that any "branded" title makes the car worth about 50% less than a clean titled car. You may think your getting a great deal but when you turn around to sell the car expect about 1/2 of what the clean titled cars of the same year/mileage draw. If the car has been properly repaired (tough to know unless you have someone you trust evaluate it) and your not concerend about resale you can sometimes get a good deal. My 02 Z only cost me 10K (total with all repairs) with 22k on the odometer but the title has been "branded" as a former flood vehicle. My opinion is that the dealer wants WAY too much money for a GM buyback/Lemon car.

Good Luck!