C5 LS1 budget build or swap?
#1
C5 LS1 budget build or swap?
I am new to this site and new to LS engines. I am gonna be purchasing a c5 6 speed vette in the next month or two and am looking for some guidance. I am wondering what years are best and the pluses and minus's of each. I am gonna be building this car to run at gingerman raceway and autocross and just to have fun in. I am looking to first get near 450 rwhp for a while before adding a supercharger. I would love to have 500 rwhp but i understand thats not gonna happen with a stock internal ls1. So i guess my question is in the long run is it cheaper to swap a ls2? or ls6? And what will I need to get 450 rwhp out of each? First i would like to spend about $2000-3000 to get good na hp. I can do all the work myself so it will just be parts themselves. I hear everyone say that a ls1 wont get the hp I want unless it has an aggressive cam. I love the sound of an aggressive cam am i missing something? any advice will be greatly appreciated!
#2
Why do you want a corvette? Its just an expensive camaro lol, save the money and find a camaro/firebird on here
450 isnt unheard of in an LS1, although $2-3k wont put you there.
Biggest headers you can afford with true duals
a F.A.S.T 104MM Intake+throttle body combo
CNC Ported heads+a cam to match (call texas speed or summit racing, tell them your goals, theyll tell you what you need)
DRAG radials...
+ All the supporting mods like an oil pump, ls2 chain, a clutch, and suspension mods to keep the car in 1 piece.
Im probably missing stuff...but that can just give you an idea.
450 isnt unheard of in an LS1, although $2-3k wont put you there.
Biggest headers you can afford with true duals
a F.A.S.T 104MM Intake+throttle body combo
CNC Ported heads+a cam to match (call texas speed or summit racing, tell them your goals, theyll tell you what you need)
DRAG radials...
+ All the supporting mods like an oil pump, ls2 chain, a clutch, and suspension mods to keep the car in 1 piece.
Im probably missing stuff...but that can just give you an idea.
#3
I disagree with the statement that a corvette is an expensive camaro. The corvette will be a MUCH better platform for an autocross car (which is what you are wanting)
You won't get anywhere near 450rwhp with 2-3k. ESPECIALLY with a corvette since their parts run more (corvette tax..haha). Good intake and exhaust on a corvette will run you the 2-3k. It would be a stretch to get 450rwhp cam only so now you're looking at heads and cam. Another 5k. Then for autocross you're talking tires, suspension, drivetrain, etc...To have a well built reliable autox corvette with 450rwhp you're talking a good 10-15k in parts above the initial price of the car.
You won't get anywhere near 450rwhp with 2-3k. ESPECIALLY with a corvette since their parts run more (corvette tax..haha). Good intake and exhaust on a corvette will run you the 2-3k. It would be a stretch to get 450rwhp cam only so now you're looking at heads and cam. Another 5k. Then for autocross you're talking tires, suspension, drivetrain, etc...To have a well built reliable autox corvette with 450rwhp you're talking a good 10-15k in parts above the initial price of the car.
#4
I have driven camaros and corvettes and the handling is not even comparable. I would rather have a good handling vette with stock power then a camaro with lots of power that doesnt handle well. I know im not gonna reach 450 with the initial 3g, but i would like to get close. And this is going to be a slow build. I am planning on running at gingerman on open track days for fun not racing for a while. I guess what i am mainly wondering is wether or not to stick with an ls1 or swap in a ls6 or ls2? Also what year c5 should I look for? I may try to get a c5 z06 if i can, although im wondering is it really worth the extra money? also is a c5 with the z51 suspension package the same suspension as the z06? thanks for advice.
#5
you said you wanted to take it to the dragway so thats what i meant when its an expensive camaro...itll be the same in a straight line, yes its completely different handling, i havent driven a corvette but im sure you get what you pay for.
I dont think your going to get your money's worth with a swapped ls2/6, you can build power on a ls1 very efficiently.
as for the years? i couldnt tell you, But theres a site called carcomplaints.com, i use this when im window shopping for cars, to see if theres a specific year with serious flaws, probably wont have all the trims of corvette, but it will tell you if there was 1 really bad year
I dont think your going to get your money's worth with a swapped ls2/6, you can build power on a ls1 very efficiently.
as for the years? i couldnt tell you, But theres a site called carcomplaints.com, i use this when im window shopping for cars, to see if theres a specific year with serious flaws, probably wont have all the trims of corvette, but it will tell you if there was 1 really bad year
#6
I am new to this site and new to LS engines. I am gonna be purchasing a c5 6 speed vette in the next month or two and am looking for some guidance. I am wondering what years are best and the pluses and minus's of each. I am gonna be building this car to run at gingerman raceway and autocross and just to have fun in. I am looking to first get near 450 rwhp for a while before adding a supercharger. I would love to have 500 rwhp but i understand thats not gonna happen with a stock internal ls1. So i guess my question is in the long run is it cheaper to swap a ls2? or ls6? And what will I need to get 450 rwhp out of each? First i would like to spend about $2000-3000 to get good na hp. I can do all the work myself so it will just be parts themselves. I hear everyone say that a ls1 wont get the hp I want unless it has an aggressive cam. I love the sound of an aggressive cam am i missing something? any advice will be greatly appreciated!
I may try to get a c5 z06 if i can, although im wondering is it really worth the extra money? also is a c5 with the z51 suspension package the same suspension as the z06? thanks for advice.
Gingerman is a roadcourse...
#7
I guess i need to clarify that I am first off planning on running gingerman on open track days just for fun. And later possibly getting into autocross. This will not just be a track I will be driving it around town for fun and such. So what I am hearing is that the ls1 will be good for pretty good power? Also If I choose to go supercharged what reliable power can u get with a stock ls1 with a supercharger?