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Old 10-18-2013, 02:26 PM
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LT's < Stall < Intake/TB < H/C, all of which will be over $4k.
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Originally Posted by BoricuaHec01
LT's < Stall < Intake/TB < H/C, all of which will be over $4k.
well over including A tune.
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Originally Posted by Rise of the Phoenix
Hey Matt, what's going on? I saw this and figured I'd throw in my two cents. Don't get me wrong, I love my heads/cam setup. It really woke the car up and it makes a ton of power, but there really isn't a whole lot of "room to grow". Yeah, I can get an intake and TB setup and push out some more power, but in order to really step it up, I'd need to toss on a Nitrous kit on the existing setup or build a big *** stroker. If you think you're always going to be satisfied with a heads/cam/intake setup, then go for it. But, if you're like me, and a lot of others on here, the power bug bites and you're left wanting more. Most then step up to a turbo build. If I had it to do all over again, I would have just done a tubo build from the beginning. I've been looking at some of the kits and the On3Performance kit looks good, but there are not a lot of results or feedback on it. The price is the most appealing aspect of it for sure. Plus, you could always opt for the kit, minus the turbo, and put on a better turbo that will allow you to make more power. If you decide to keep it N/A, you're going to need headers for sure, plus all the other stuff like heads, cam, all the valve train components, etc. That stuff adds up quick and in all honesty, you could do a turbo build for less. Either way you go, good luck. Best advice I can give you is really think it over and make 100% sure it's what you want to do.
Thanks for the advice man.
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Speed inc does wonders. They've done two other ls1s around my area and they are pretty stout. Both are heads/cam. Speed inc did my gears and did a great job.
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Good to hear...that's where I was going to go...
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Huron kit!!!?
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Call Straightline performance in New Lennox. Nick is a great mechanic and they do custom in house turbo kits as well. They are a sponsor here too.

H/C is fun but these guys are right....you will probably want more power 2 weeks after your install just like I did. But a 100-150 shot on top of that is a pretty potent combo....LS1s love dope.

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Originally Posted by BrntWS6
Call Straightline performance in New Lennox. Nick is a great mechanic and they do custom in house turbo kits as well. They are a sponsor here too.

H/C is fun but these guys are right....you will probably want more power 2 weeks after your install just like I did. But a 100-150 shot on top of that is a pretty potent combo....LS1s love dope.

Statements like these make me want to go to straitline since its closer and cheaper, but I have hear some things about them that I don't like. Same goes for speed inc tho. I'm at a total loss of who to take my car to so I can have my heads put on and a cam specd out.
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Originally Posted by BlackCowl
Statements like these make me want to go to straitline since its closer and cheaper, but I have hear some things about them that I don't like. Same goes for speed inc tho. I'm at a total loss of who to take my car to so I can have my heads put on and a cam specd out.


Every shop is going to have complaints....its how they handle them that counts. I personally haven't had issues with them. I've had to bring my car back a couple times for tuning tweaks but they have no problem adjusting it for me. I just had them tune my car and install my clutch.....did my own H/C. They did put a cam in my best friends 5th gen and he was happy.
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To the OP. I have a 2001 SS Camaro M6. I ended up getting PRC Stage 2.5 5.3L P/P Heads with a Torquer V3 Cam and upgraded to 35lbs FAST injectors. Also threw in Kooks 1 3/4 stepped 1 7/8 LT's and it cost me around $3400 Plus $600 for a tune. Everybody I have talked to and other people who have done simular builds have posted way higher numbers than what mine came out. But I im sitting at 381rwhp. I've seen a lot of people posting 420rwhp. I'm thinking its the tune. Good luck in your search.
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If it was me I would get a fast 92mm intake send my 241 heads to advanced induction for the hcr and get a cam from them 420-450 daily driver.they have the cam and head package.
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Originally Posted by jmart
02 WS6 Trans Am and used it to develop our LS1 X-Package. With nothing more than our engineered combination of external bolt-ons and plenty of dyno tuning the car made 400.7 rwhp and 401.6 rwtq. This is the first and only bolt-ons only LS1 in the world to get to 400 rwhp. We call this engineered combination of bolt-ons the X package. To learn more about this LS1 world record check out the X-Package page

www.speedengineeringanddyno.com

found this online to help you, but I bet this guy is pricey$. good luck!
Yeah a bolt on ls1 is not going to hit 400rwhp unless the tuner is jacking the numbers. It's just not going to happen. A lot of cam only cars don't even break the 380 mark.
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Think I've settled on a plan. TSP 1 7/8 headers and TSP ORY, Yank SS 3600 stall, and a Speed Inc. SI5 cam. Of course, all of the supporting parts will be installed as well. Thanks for the help and I'll update once finished!
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Good call on the route you're going. There will be a noticeable improvement in power there and heads would be the next logical choice to compliment that setup once you get the itch for more power. The head swap on top of that will feel like a massive gain!

I went with a "budget" N/A setup and once I decided that wasn't enough anymore just slapped a N2O kit on it.
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Yep, figure next year I can do heads/intake.
Old 01-08-2014, 11:00 PM
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Exactly what I did. I went with the SI5 too and had speed inc do the install. It's a nice cam, and has some lope to it but not to radical. If you did your header install your self you'd definitely save some dough to be spent elsewhere.
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Holloway- what were your gains after the install? Also- how dramatic was the difference when you got the car back (butt dyno)?
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Originally Posted by mac62989
I would think this combo would get you around 420-430 rwhp with an A4
how would the numbers change if he had a M6?
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Originally Posted by BrainFreezE
how would the numbers change if he had a M6?
AI 243s, a decent sized cam, and a FAST with all quality bolt ons have hit 450 rwhp plenty of times.
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Originally Posted by mac62989
AI 243s, a decent sized cam, and a FAST with all quality bolt ons have hit 450 rwhp plenty of times.
Not what I was asking he said if its a A4 you would get xxx RWHP.

let's say 2 cars same miles same mods one is A4 the other is M6 its not going to put the same RWHP out? which would put more out if so? just curious.


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