tornado fuel saver
06-17-2004, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by steve2001sh
It's true that you want turbulant flow inside the cylinder. It's called swirl. It is the heads job to do that. You don't want turbulant flow in your entire intake though. You want smoth flow right up until the end, so that you can get more air to the engine. The tornado might be helpful in a perfect world, but even if it's spiral is a constructive one, the MAF, air bellows, and TB are going to screw up that spiral anyway, so really all the tornado is doing for you is creating one more restriction.
Exactly. Also, think about it. The auto companies spend millions if not billions of dollars trying to improve fuel economy. Don't you think they'd be running these parts that cost like $10 to put in if they could get even .5 mpg better per car?
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06-17-2004, 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by whorunit
I'm just took an Internal Combustion Engine class (I've got 19 hrs. left till my mechanical engineering degree) at Louisiana State University and turbulent intake air is desired. Turbulent airflow allows for the air molecules to better mix with the fuel...better mixture yields better combustion.
06-17-2004, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by DANSLS1GTO
Exactly. Also, think about it. The auto companies spend millions if not billions of dollars trying to improve fuel economy. Don't you think they'd be running these parts that cost like $10 to put in if they could get even .5 mpg better per car?
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I don't think there is any better way of looking at it than that. Good point in the extreem. And $10 bucks is a little rich for that thing.... I'd guestimate it cost the manufacturer $10 per 100 units. My friend got one, and when it came we thought it was a joke. No improvement on his Jeep BTW.
06-17-2004, 03:23 PM
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thanks for the replys i wasnt planning on buying one at all i was just curious if anyone had one cause i see the commercial for it all the time and was just curious, obviously noone has one. thanks for all the info though
06-17-2004, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by DANSLS1GTO
Exactly. Also, think about it. The auto companies spend millions if not billions of dollars trying to improve fuel economy. Don't you think they'd be running these parts that cost like $10 to put in if they could get even .5 mpg better per car?
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although you have the right idea you are wronge.....
cutout cost 30 bucks take a guess if it improves your gas milage
there are alot of things holding back car companys from putting out the most fuel conservative and powerful cars.... most have to do with emmissions...
there are cheap tricks that work....descreen maf , cutout, port tb ... ect ect ect....hell desilencer your stock lid...
that being said......
your engine is an air pump.... more air in more air out the more eficiant it goes.....
if it is a restriction it hurts you...
use common sence... look at it... if it makes no sence then guess what...
06-17-2004, 11:49 PM
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steve2001sh said what I was trying to say, but a lot clearer. Thanks. Would I buy I tornado for my truck? Nope. I've never looked inside a set of intake runners, but I was wondering if they have any kind of helical boring to make the mixture swirl as it's going to the heads. Anyone know?
06-18-2004, 12:00 AM
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i agree that more turbulent air would mix fuel and air better together. So as someone has already stated, on a carburated engine would be the only chance in hell it would work. On a fuel injected engine its just a joke IMO.
06-18-2004, 01:39 PM
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descreen maf , cutout, port tb ... ect ect ect....hell desilencer your stock lid...
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The cutout would help, but none of that stuff on the intake side of the engine will help gas mileage. The biggest restriction in the intake at part throttle is the throttle plate, that's its job. So here's an easy way to get rid of the restriction: open the throttle all the way. Oh ****, you didn't make anything more efficient, you're just speeding up.
descreen maf , cutout, port tb ... ect ect ect....hell desilencer your stock lid...
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The cutout would help, but none of that stuff on the intake side of the engine will help gas mileage. The biggest restriction in the intake at part throttle is the throttle plate, that's its job. So here's an easy way to get rid of the restriction: open the throttle all the way. Oh ****, you didn't make anything more efficient, you're just speeding up.
06-18-2004, 05:12 PM
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[QUOTE=P Mack][QUOTE=jaberwaki]
descreen maf , cutout, port tb ... ect ect ect....hell desilencer your stock lid...
The cutout would help, but none of that stuff on the intake side of the engine will help gas mileage. The biggest restriction in the intake at part throttle is the throttle plate, that's its job. So here's an easy way to get rid of the restriction: open the throttle all the way. Oh ****, you didn't make anything more efficient, you're just speeding up. you wanna test that theory? 
descreen maf , cutout, port tb ... ect ect ect....hell desilencer your stock lid...
The cutout would help, but none of that stuff on the intake side of the engine will help gas mileage. The biggest restriction in the intake at part throttle is the throttle plate, that's its job. So here's an easy way to get rid of the restriction: open the throttle all the way. Oh ****, you didn't make anything more efficient, you're just speeding up.
06-09-2005, 05:00 AM
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Originally Posted by ss rally red
You can find the Tornado on the shelf at Walmart, right next to the 100 mpg carburator and the engines that run on water.
engines that run on water.... well from what i have seen they have them in cali.... certain places, ihave hydrogen fueling stations..... or i could just be wrong... lol
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06-09-2005, 12:48 PM
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no, they did have those carbs, and the gov supposedly used them on their jeeps and tanks in ww2. the plans were bought by ford after that, and they promised to have an 80 mpg car by the 80's. then the price of gas dropped, so did the plans for the carb!
06-09-2005, 01:03 PM
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And have you looked to see how much energy is required to get the hydrogen out of water? Just another reason (besides the Hindenberg) that hydrogen as a fuel isn't a good idea.
06-09-2005, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by natronathon
no, they did have those carbs, and the gov supposedly used them on their jeeps and tanks in ww2. the plans were bought by ford after that, and they promised to have an 80 mpg car by the 80's. then the price of gas dropped, so did the plans for the carb!
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