New to GM’s. Just got a ‘00 Z28
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New to GM’s. Just got a ‘00 Z28
Hey y’all. I’ve wanted a 4th gen Camaro/Firebird since I was a youngster. Welp, I’m turning 40 this year and I finally got one. I flew to St. Louis from TX to look at a ‘00 Z28 that had 27k miles on it and I ended up driving it back. It’s stock (I think) down the tape deck and 12 disc changer. Now all I need is 12 CD’s.. it’s an auto and if my research is correct it has the 3.23 rear gear. I’m fairly certain that it does because it was running something like 2,300 rpm or so around 70-75 mph. I’m new to the GM world, coming from the 90’s Mustang world, so y’all will probably have to help me a long a little. Here she is, thanks for having me.
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Hey y’all. I’ve wanted a 4th gen Camaro/Firebird since I was a youngster. Welp, I’m turning 40 this year and I finally got one. I flew to St. Louis from TX to look at a ‘00 Z28 that had 27k miles on it and I ended up driving it back. It’s stock (I think) down the tape deck and 12 disc changer. Now all I need is 12 CD’s.. it’s an auto and if my research is correct it has the 3.23 rear gear. I’m fairly certain that it does because it was running something like 2,300 rpm or so around 70-75 mph. I’m new to the GM world, coming from the 90’s Mustang world, so y’all will probably have to help me a long a little. Here she is, thanks for having me.
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Good looking car. Great base to start modding. A ls6 intake, higher stall with bigger trans cooler, wheels and tires, full exhaust and gears with a tune. You will have a nice and pretty fast car
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I’m thinking it’ll take more than the bolt-on game to make it quick enough to be relevant. Tune and exhaust will get me what 330-340 rear horse maybe? I’m not certain what a new Camaro puts down but a new Mustang GT puts down around 400 at the tire. One is peeing in the wind with bolt-ons if they’re starting 100 horsepower behind the 8-ball. If I had the money for a forced induction or a top end as well as all the other fuel and suspension, and in this world tans and rear end upgrades as well I’d get after it. But since I don’t I’m thinking staying stock is the best money spent. Or maybe I’d get into the bolt-on, stall, and sticky tire game if I was trying to run a 12.8 or whatever at the drags. But I don’t really wanna spend several thousands on 10-20 horses. It’d be loud and slow.
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Biebs (03-21-2022)
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Welcome to the forum!
Sweet looking low mileage 00 Z28. It's a cool car as is and I'd enjoy as is for a while 😊 . If the mod bug bites looks like an excellent car to work with.
Truthfully, I have as much enjoyment normally daily driving my basic bolt on 02 Z28 with ~326 whp around as I do my 99 T/A with the 416 with ~517whp.
It's also pretty cool its ~300 to 500 pounds lighter than a new Camaro SS/LT1 or Mustang GT, that helps start to offset some of the power & 10 speed auto advantages of the newer cars.
An 00 Z28 w/4L60E will typically make ~265 whp to ~285 whp depending on which dyno on which day etc blah blah. My 02 Z28 made ~280whp stock with a ~quarter million miles on the engine & transmission.
Best mod for any LS1 fbody with a 4L60E willl be a high quality torque converter like Yank 3600SS or Vigilant or Circle D.
NA with a good heads & cam package can add ~125 to ~150 whp and hit 400+ whp to 425 whp very easily without breaking the bank. Depending on how much one wants to spend ~450 whp to ~475 is very doable to. Breaking 500whp will get expensive NA.
With Forced Induction ~500 to ~650+ ,whp is doable with a Procharger, MagnaCharger, turbo set up or other weapon of choice.
Sweet looking low mileage 00 Z28. It's a cool car as is and I'd enjoy as is for a while 😊 . If the mod bug bites looks like an excellent car to work with.
Truthfully, I have as much enjoyment normally daily driving my basic bolt on 02 Z28 with ~326 whp around as I do my 99 T/A with the 416 with ~517whp.
It's also pretty cool its ~300 to 500 pounds lighter than a new Camaro SS/LT1 or Mustang GT, that helps start to offset some of the power & 10 speed auto advantages of the newer cars.
An 00 Z28 w/4L60E will typically make ~265 whp to ~285 whp depending on which dyno on which day etc blah blah. My 02 Z28 made ~280whp stock with a ~quarter million miles on the engine & transmission.
Best mod for any LS1 fbody with a 4L60E willl be a high quality torque converter like Yank 3600SS or Vigilant or Circle D.
NA with a good heads & cam package can add ~125 to ~150 whp and hit 400+ whp to 425 whp very easily without breaking the bank. Depending on how much one wants to spend ~450 whp to ~475 is very doable to. Breaking 500whp will get expensive NA.
With Forced Induction ~500 to ~650+ ,whp is doable with a Procharger, MagnaCharger, turbo set up or other weapon of choice.
Last edited by 99 Black Bird T/A; 02-08-2022 at 11:16 AM.
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
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Since you have the 12 disc changer, you have the aux button. You could put bluetooth in the car then there would be no need to carry all those CDs
https://youtu.be/XSHAcegRr6w
https://youtu.be/XSHAcegRr6w
Sounds really lame. I think he should throw a record player in the back.
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Gotta put an 8-track player in my '98 Camaro next. I'd feel more at home with that, CDs are still feeling a bit modern for me.
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I just got my 1972 Zenith turntable back up and running this week, found an N-O-S cartridge to replace the one I broke almost 3 years ago. Thankfully they are now reproducing the diamond/sapphire LP/78 needle for this application. Oh, sorry wrong forum.
Gotta put an 8-track player in my '98 Camaro next. I'd feel more at home with that, CDs are still feeling a bit modern for me.
Gotta put an 8-track player in my '98 Camaro next. I'd feel more at home with that, CDs are still feeling a bit modern for me.
Right!! I was about to bring up the 8 track.... I mention the bluetooth since I love having my own playlists with no commercials!
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First “Mod” Purchased
Well I purchased my first “mod.” It’s not exactly a mod as it is an “upgrade” I guess, but at any rate I ordered a set of lower control arms. I went with a set from Founders Performance that look exactly like the set that I have on my Ford, except the ones on the Ford were sold under the brand name J&M they (J&M) were a little more expensive. The bushings in the stock oem arms look to have seen better days, so why not replace the arms as well. The J&M’s I’m using in the other car have are the bees-knees and these Founders look identical so I’m hoping they’ll be just as good. I got them in black because red suspension pieces & bushings are for teenagers. 😂
Next one the agenda is to order a new trans mount & TQ arm bushing. Here shortly I’m going to take it in to hopefully just have the bearings & seals replaced in the rear and I think I’ll have them replace the trans mount & tq arm bushing while it’s there.
Waiting on the Libyan nationalist in the mall parking lot. My flux-capacitor is almost out of plutonium.
Rear Control Arm w/ 3 Piece Bushings. (Poly Ball)
Next one the agenda is to order a new trans mount & TQ arm bushing. Here shortly I’m going to take it in to hopefully just have the bearings & seals replaced in the rear and I think I’ll have them replace the trans mount & tq arm bushing while it’s there.
Waiting on the Libyan nationalist in the mall parking lot. My flux-capacitor is almost out of plutonium.
Rear Control Arm w/ 3 Piece Bushings. (Poly Ball)
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
But many of these late 4th gen roofs have been repainted at this point, even on low mile cars, due to the bubbling roof issue. Hopefully someone actually replaced the whole roof panel and prepped it properly, because if it's just a repaint then the bubbles will certainly come back.
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Yeah they’re blue. It has had a re-spray at some point in its life, but I’m not sure if they used to be black or not. I believe ‘93/‘94 were the only years where black tops were “mandatory” for Z28’s, and I believe that it became an option after that.
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From: Schiller Park, IL Member: #317
Your 2000 Z28 would have come with a black roof, there was no other option. The RPO D82 "monochromatic roof/mirrors" option was only offered from (I think) 1995-'97 - it was definitely not extended into the 1998-'02 years. Starting in model year 2000, the mirrors would have been painted body color but not the roof (other than the exceptions I noted in the post above).
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Your 2000 Z28 would have come with a black roof, there was no other option. The RPO D82 "monochromatic roof/mirrors" option was only offered from (I think) 1995-'97 - it was definitely not extended into the 1998-'02 years. Starting in model year 2000, the mirrors would have been painted body color but not the roof (other than the exceptions I noted in the post above).
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Yup I knew I wasn't going crazy. I wish the Firebirds were the same way as the black matches the ttops, dark windshield and hatch window. It just meshes better, same with the body color mirrors, the black mirrors just threw everything off.