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Old Jul 29, 2023 | 02:13 PM
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i designed and built my prototype for getting cooler and more air to my 98 Z28 it works so well it throwing a PO171 bank 1 lean code so now I have to get it tuned which costs $300 I don’t have any other tuning ways out there
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i designed and built my prototype for getting cooler and more air to my 98 Z28 it works so well it throwing a PO171 bank 1 lean code so now I have to get it tuned which costs $300 I don’t have any other tuning ways out there
Looks like you'll need to invent a solution for this. Look for vacuum leaks or bad MAF.
A good cool air system won't throw A/F off if everything's working right. Something's off somewhere.
BTW, this should be in Gen III External, not Internal
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so now I have to get it tuned
If you don't mind my asking, JUST EXACTLY WHAT THE HELL DID YOU EXPECT anyway? How is this a problem? "Invention" doesn't matter; if you disrupt the air flow vs fuel relationship that the engine wants, "invent" or no, sufficient to move the target "ideal" outside of the factory's programming, what else is gonna fix it?

If ya wanna play ya gotta pay. Or, ya gotta "invent" some other way to alter the tune so that the engine becomes happy with the result of your prior "invention". Your choice inventor.
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Did you try clearing the code and seeing if it comes back?

Might be worth checking the MAF & O2 sensor before tuning with that code.


The trouble shooting should be child's play for a sucessful inventor.
Old Jul 30, 2023 | 06:31 AM
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wow thought this a friendly site but whatever I tested all the suggestions and thanks to the ones mocking choice of my words I guess you must perfect people
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You came up with a way to introduce more air into the engine and you're now getting a bank 1 code. Don't you find it strange that it's just on the one side? If the factory ECU was self learning then there would be no need for an LS tuner or tuning software right?
More air = fueling and timing adjustments.

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wow thought this a friendly site but whatever I tested all the suggestions and thanks to the ones mocking choice of my words I guess you must perfect people
Nope, not perfect, as nobody really is. What you DO have here, is a LOT of very knowledgeable guys who have "heard it all before" as the cliche' goes.
As was brought up above, did your "invention" only introduce more air to one side?. Because that is NOT possible UNLESS you have leak on one side.
So as I've said before in ALL your other posts, check for vacuum leaks plus your O2 and MAF sensors.
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Old Jul 30, 2023 | 10:20 AM
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Nope, not perfect, as nobody really is. What you DO have here, is a LOT of very knowledgeable guys who have "heard it all before" as the cliche' goes.
As was brought up above, did your "invention" only introduce more air to one side?. Because that is NOT possible UNLESS you have leak on one side.
So as I've said before in ALL your other posts, check for vacuum leaks plus your O2 and MAF sensors.
sprayed entire engine with starting fluid no change in idle and diagnostics computer showed no other issues
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Originally Posted by 99 Black Bird T/A
Did you try clearing the code and seeing if it comes back?

Might be worth checking the MAF & O2 sensor before tuning with that code.


The trouble shooting should be child's play for a sucessful inventor.
well i designed and built it myself so there’s nothing else like it so like with any new product u need to work out bugs so much for child’s play sorry I asked for more info to help with child’s playing I’m going back to my sandbox now
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Instead of being a pouting spoilsport, tell us more about your "invention" is so we can help you figure out what's going on.
It appears you're ignoring any and all help being tossed your way just so you can tout your "invention"
Newsflash- There is very little new under the sun these days....
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sprayed entire engine with starting fluid no change in idle and diagnostics computer showed no other issues
if you’ve heard everything then how many true crystal skulls are there and what can they store internally and and how did they find the last one?
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if you’ve heard everything then how many true crystal skulls are there and what can they store internally and and how did they find the last one?
NEVER said I've heard everything. And what does the crystal skull BS have to do with anything?
Get to work figuring out your issue at hand...
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if you’ve heard everything then how many true crystal skulls are there and what can they store internally and and how did they find the last one?
I'm sure there's a History Channel forum somewhere on the internet, please use that for future questions of this nature.




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