Ls1's Are Faster Than Lt1's
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I've owned both and I'd swear my 96 Formula with A4 and 3.73s felt stronger (at least down low) than my 01 M6 Hawk with SLP longtubes, y-pipe and mini cats. I think if all you are interested in is some occasional stoplight gran prix, I think the LT1 is a great motor. Now if you are going to spend a lot of time at the track, (or if you don't mind getting into triple digits on the street) the LS1 pulls like mad at about 80mph. I'd almost swear my Hawk is quicker 60 to 120 than 0 to 60. I really enjoyed my LT1, and I put close to 90K on it without any engine related failures. The LT1 definately sounded better and I didn't have the piston slap and mysterious oil consumption that I have with my LS1.
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Originally Posted by WS6FirebirdTA00
people are gettin more wheel spin out of the ls1s at the track than the lts from what i have seen. u gotta look at like motor trend and those guys that test consistently.
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Originally Posted by f-bodman
As said above the LS1's are underated, whereas the LT1 were pretty much right on. My stock '97 dynoed at 244rwhp which I've heard is good for an LT1. I do know that my bone stock '01 was noticably faster than my '97 with headers, catback and a K&N CAI.
LT1 = 300 FWHP
LS1 = 350 FWHP
Stock for stock LS1 > LT1
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Ls1s are faster stock. Water is wet and rocks are hard.
Are these threads required every couple weeks to keep these boards alive? Car and Driver had a horrible 06 vette test.
Are these threads required every couple weeks to keep these boards alive? Car and Driver had a horrible 06 vette test.
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Originally Posted by METALBEAST
Car & Driver is more accurate.
...the mag that seems to really get the most out of the cars they run is MM&FF actually... They ran a 12.8 in an LS1 Z28.
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Wow alot of cocky slow cars here.
my cold air/cutout only lt1 formy runs 13.4 at 101mph.
when my ws6 was stock it ran 13.0 at 107
dont count out lt1's so fast. i have hurt ALOT of stock ls1's feelings in my baby bird.
mod for mod it depends on how far you take it.....
Ask Joe Overton (fastest n/a lt1) after he beat mikey (fastest n/a ls1)
those 2 have been back and forth so many times now. but it has always been won or lost at the tree.
in bone stock trim the ls1 has the upper hand. but given the right driver and one or 2 key mods and you will be surprized
my cold air/cutout only lt1 formy runs 13.4 at 101mph.
when my ws6 was stock it ran 13.0 at 107
dont count out lt1's so fast. i have hurt ALOT of stock ls1's feelings in my baby bird.
mod for mod it depends on how far you take it.....
Ask Joe Overton (fastest n/a lt1) after he beat mikey (fastest n/a ls1)
those 2 have been back and forth so many times now. but it has always been won or lost at the tree.
in bone stock trim the ls1 has the upper hand. but given the right driver and one or 2 key mods and you will be surprized
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I have 3 buddies with LT1s. Its not even close once I get into 2nd gear. Actually only have 2 buddies now, the other one just purchased an LS1. I had a 94 Z and loved it though.
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Originally Posted by Casper97
A stock LS is faster than a stock LT. After that it can be anybodys game though.
Take care, Ed
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My friends 95 LT1 A4 Z28 had: Shorty headers,ORY,B&B cat back,UD Pulley,cold air kit,K&N,3:73 gears and a Locker.
His average times on E/T streets were 14.0-13.9 at 99-101 mph.
Then he sprayed a 200 dry shot and would run consistant 11.7 @117 mph.
Now my dead stock(down to the paper air filter) ran 13.2 @ 105 and with DR's and a 100 shot dry kit it went 12.3 @ 113,Now with all his mods done to my car EXCEPT gears and LOCKER, i run 11.62@ 117 on a 75 shot and on DR's too.
All races were at the same race track,by the way.
I like LT1 cars and i LOVE LS1 cars. both are great and both have earned some respect,but i would prefer a LS1 car anyday(between the 2 of them).
Dave
His average times on E/T streets were 14.0-13.9 at 99-101 mph.
Then he sprayed a 200 dry shot and would run consistant 11.7 @117 mph.
Now my dead stock(down to the paper air filter) ran 13.2 @ 105 and with DR's and a 100 shot dry kit it went 12.3 @ 113,Now with all his mods done to my car EXCEPT gears and LOCKER, i run 11.62@ 117 on a 75 shot and on DR's too.
All races were at the same race track,by the way.
I like LT1 cars and i LOVE LS1 cars. both are great and both have earned some respect,but i would prefer a LS1 car anyday(between the 2 of them).
Dave
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Originally Posted by jaberwaki
Wow alot of cocky slow cars here.
my cold air/cutout only lt1 formy runs 13.4 at 101mph.
when my ws6 was stock it ran 13.0 at 107
dont count out lt1's so fast. i have hurt ALOT of stock ls1's feelings in my baby bird.
mod for mod it depends on how far you take it.....
Ask Joe Overton (fastest n/a lt1) after he beat mikey (fastest n/a ls1)
those 2 have been back and forth so many times now. but it has always been won or lost at the tree.
in bone stock trim the ls1 has the upper hand. but given the right driver and one or 2 key mods and you will be surprized
my cold air/cutout only lt1 formy runs 13.4 at 101mph.
when my ws6 was stock it ran 13.0 at 107
dont count out lt1's so fast. i have hurt ALOT of stock ls1's feelings in my baby bird.
mod for mod it depends on how far you take it.....
Ask Joe Overton (fastest n/a lt1) after he beat mikey (fastest n/a ls1)
those 2 have been back and forth so many times now. but it has always been won or lost at the tree.
in bone stock trim the ls1 has the upper hand. but given the right driver and one or 2 key mods and you will be surprized
Not knocking the LT1 or your car, just throwing something else into that mix
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Originally Posted by DMNSPD
13.4 is quick, but it doesn't have any mph to back it up. On the street, that 101 mph won't get anywhere.
Not knocking the LT1 or your car, just throwing something else into that mix
Not knocking the LT1 or your car, just throwing something else into that mix
Sorry for being a smarta$$. I'm just in one of those moods today. That is a hell of an ET though for a 101 trap. That 60' had to be impressive.
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Well i dont really play much on the streets any more...
13.4 with a .5XX reaction time <----most everytime
is enough to finish first against most stock ls1's
MPH means nothing. Who crosses the traps first does
my ls1 does 118 traps (that more like it? )
13.4 with a .5XX reaction time <----most everytime
is enough to finish first against most stock ls1's
MPH means nothing. Who crosses the traps first does
my ls1 does 118 traps (that more like it? )