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Old 02-14-2006, 05:03 PM
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damn i guess you dont get sarcasm
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
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I was waiting for someone to say that...
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Originally Posted by idrivesh!t
damn i guess you dont get sarcasm
FYI: It's very difficult to "get" sarcasm on the internet from somebody whom you know nothing about when no alternate froms of text, smilies, or hints are used.
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Originally Posted by blkZ28spt
This sight isn't really for you.
catagory is new LS1
you should stay over in the 11sec section,

I've gotten lots of helpful sugestions here.

Thanks I guess
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after a few years of thinking about cams &TC I've desided on the crane Boss 2. specs
216/224/551/551/115LSA with what crane recommends 2500 TC.install both at same time.

this is a daily driver and just an occasionly drag car actually I treat the streets as my own personal race track only when it's safe to which is'nt often.

OK now I'll expect most to respond with 224 cam as a minium, this is actually a radical cam making about 45-50 hp. match that with 3K min-3.5K TC won't the car be a dog before 3K RPM (around town)
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You don't understand that a stall won't make the car a dog, a 224 isn't radical either. Just because the rated stall speed of a converter is 3500 rpm that doesnt mean the car is going to be a slouch under those rpm's.

You seem pretty set on doing this *** backwards, so have fun.
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Without a stall the car will stall, it will surge, it will creep when you are stopped, it will be a handful and not want to behave on the street.
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Originally Posted by badmfkr
catagory is new LS1
you should stay over in the 11sec section,

I've gotten lots of helpful sugestions here.

Thanks I guess
If you've had lots of helpfull suggestions, why aren't you listening to them?



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OK now I'll expect most to respond with 224 cam as a minium, this is actually a radical cam making about 45-50 hp.
A 224 is FAR from radical. The reason it is often recommended as the minimum is because with proper tuning and an aftermarket torque converter (for A4s) it will drive virtually like stock. You need to do a few more years research, otherwise I will have to agree with below.

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You seem pretty set on doing this *** backwards, so have fun.
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thanks for most reponses here even though not one actually answered.the initial ?
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Originally Posted by badmfkr
thanks for most reponses here even though not one actually answered.the initial ?
You can go as big as you want, I'm running a TTP V.3 cam (its big, looking for 400rwhp when I finish my exhaust setup) and i have the stock stall. Does it work? Yes. Is it fun? NO! Its a complet pain in the *** to drive around town, I'm only doing it until I get my taxes back so I can go out ad buy a stall.
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Originally Posted by badmfkr
thanks for most reponses here even though not one actually answered.the initial ?
Dude you are putting the cart before the horse, trust me, from someone who has driven an A4 with a stock stall and aftermarket cam. I had a 226/234 112 cam with the stock stall.

You will not be able to drive the car safely.. There were times when my brakes could not even keep the car still and I had to throw it in neutral to keep from rear ending someone.


You are going to go spend alot of money on a cam and not get anything out of it.. Listen to us we have done this before and are trying to keep you from making a VERY VERY stupid decision..
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Originally Posted by Joel_SS
Dude you are putting the cart before the horse, trust me, from someone who has driven an A4 with a stock stall and aftermarket cam. I had a 226/234 112 cam with the stock stall.

You will not be able to drive the car safely.. There were times when my brakes could not even keep the car still and I had to throw it in neutral to keep from rear ending someone.


You are going to go spend alot of money on a cam and not get anything out of it.. Listen to us we have done this before and are trying to keep you from making a VERY VERY stupid decision..
What he said. You have all the advice you need man, its just now up to you to make a smart decision or not.
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Originally Posted by badmfkr
thanks for most reponses here even though not one actually answered.the initial ?
You have been told plenty, and your question as been answerd.

Unfortunately you are too hard headed and set in your plan. Maybe you are simply waiting for that one person who will tell you what you want to hear?

When you put the cam in before the converter and can't keep it from dying when you put it in gear, come to a stop, go slower rather than faster....whatever it is that happens don't blame anyone but yourself.
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A stall will not make your car a dog. It will actually make the car louder since the converter will slip the rpms higher when you move. Stall first then start thinking about a cam.
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The largerest cam i would reccomend for the stock converter is the stock cam. I do not feel that the stock converter takes full advantage of the stock cam. There, i answered your question. Any larger than stock (or an LS6 cam) and you are going to have MAJOR driveability issues.
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Originally Posted by badmfkr
after a few years of thinking about cams &TC I've desided on the crane Boss 2. specs
216/224/551/551/115LSA with what crane recommends 2500 TC.install both at same time.

this is a daily driver and just an occasionly drag car actually I treat the streets as my own personal race track only when it's safe to which is'nt often.

OK now I'll expect most to respond with 224 cam as a minium, this is actually a radical cam making about 45-50 hp. match that with 3K min-3.5K TC won't the car be a dog before 3K RPM (around town)
You do understand that a stall acts like slipping the clutch of sorts dont you? With a stall you are always in your powerband. just stomp and go. The stock cam even needs a stall. so the biggest you should go is the stock cam. maybr with repitition youll get it.
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see Guy's I've always had Manuale transmission cars so I really don't completely understand the concept of the TC.
I think the preverbal light went off with the last post.

OK thanks guys I can take a hint 1. pick a cam then use manufactors suggestion on TC
plan1. install both at same time

plan 2. install TC first. then cam.

I guess picking the right cam is the hard part.

Thanks for adviceing newbie

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Originally Posted by badmfkr
see Guy's I've always had Manuale transmission cars so I really don't completely understand the concept of the TC.
I think the preverbal light went off with the last post.

OK thanks guys I can take a hint 1. pick a cam then use manufactors suggestion on TC
plan1. install both at same time

plan 2. install TC first. then cam.

I guess picking the right cam is the hard part.

Thanks for adviceing newbie
Sounds like some good plans! Good luck.
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Plan 2, you'll need to find out where the car likes to be launched at with the new converter.
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Default couple of quick ?s from newbie's first cam install

1.Valve are non adjusting don't worry about zero lash? This is for non LS1 cams right? Just torque rockers?

2.TDC mettod when valve drops to top of piston, what do'es this mean I'll just have to compress the spring that much more?

3. Locks the smaller end faces toward the cylinder head?
The locks the center of lock has a raised spot line this up with the crease in valve stem?

4.where to insert the screw driver in the flywheel to lock down the motor?

5.AC belt must have missed this part where it was removed?

6. Valve I'm assumming it can't be installed upside down?

7. I'm assumming the flat part of the titauim retainer faces up?

Sorry to sound so stupid.

Thanks
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