View Poll Results: Headers or Gears
Pacesetter LTs
46
67.65%
2.73's to 3.73's
22
32.35%
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Headers or Gears???
You also need to figure in the install price for the gears.I'm not sure what they charge in your area.Usually its a couple of hundred,more depending on if you want all new bearings,seals,etc.
Same with the headers.You need to find out what all the little things cost.Is that price just headers?You'll need a y-pipe,o2 simms for the rear,etc.Your stock Y wont work with longtubes.
I just say this beacause you were saying you were working with a budget.So you need to find the total $ involved for both choices.I would suggest getting a torque convertor/tranny cooler first.Its going to make the biggest difference.
Same with the headers.You need to find out what all the little things cost.Is that price just headers?You'll need a y-pipe,o2 simms for the rear,etc.Your stock Y wont work with longtubes.
I just say this beacause you were saying you were working with a budget.So you need to find the total $ involved for both choices.I would suggest getting a torque convertor/tranny cooler first.Its going to make the biggest difference.
Normaly I'd say go with the headers, but the 2.73's really are junk. My friend has another 98 z28 A4 with 2.73's and it's amazing how much slower his car is compaired to mine (3.23's)
Both are great, but i think you'll feel the gears alot more in the seat of your pants.
Both are great, but i think you'll feel the gears alot more in the seat of your pants.
if i HAD to pick one, i would say headers. switching gears from 273-373 only got me .25/1 mph in the 1/4...i think headers would do more.
but on a side note...skip both of them and get a 3k+ stall converter, tranny cooler...and some really sticky tires.
but on a side note...skip both of them and get a 3k+ stall converter, tranny cooler...and some really sticky tires.
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Originally Posted by marine7891
I have a way to install both,i am gona do the headers with some friends, and if i do gears I have a guy at work that can do it
Just something you should maybe check into.You can do the headers/gears later on down the road and still have a quicker car with a 3200 to 3500 stall.
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From: Lubbock/Tomball, TX
Originally Posted by WhiteRhino
Id add a torque convertor to the poll.I know you have headers/gears listed.A torque convertor will make the best improvement,even with the 273 stock gears.You'll feel the convertor alot more than gears or headers.You can get a Fuddle for around $550 and sometimes he has the convertors on sale.A good tranny cooler is about $50.
Just something you should maybe check into.You can do the headers/gears later on down the road and still have a quicker car with a 3200 to 3500 stall.
Just something you should maybe check into.You can do the headers/gears later on down the road and still have a quicker car with a 3200 to 3500 stall.
Won't affect your gas mileage much either. 
im not sure if 550$ is guna cover getting LT's / Y pipe and installation...but ive never felt 2.73 gears..im sure 3.23s/3.42s/3.73s will waken your care up. and whats wrong with getting a quarter of a second in the 1/4? thats good improvement in my opinion. but a stall could possibly work out too!!! its all what you wana do.
Fuddle racing performance series stalls are $400 
http://www.fuddleracing.com/GMCars.html#300
They are that cheap
http://www.fuddleracing.com/GMCars.html#300
They are that cheap
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question from the converter idiot.
i have never drivin a car with a stall so how exactly will the drivabily change with a 3000-3200 stall, keep in mind this is a daily driver
-josh
i have never drivin a car with a stall so how exactly will the drivabily change with a 3000-3200 stall, keep in mind this is a daily driver
-josh
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You'll see way more difference with the gears in a straight out performance (quickness) comparison, and if you compare performance/$$, then it's Gears hands down. 4.10's were the best mod I did for quickness, but I do love the sound of my LTs and LM with the top down. They're next on the list...
You could make a case for LTs first if you had aftermarket heads and cam already, but in your current state, gears will make the biggest difference.
You could make a case for LTs first if you had aftermarket heads and cam already, but in your current state, gears will make the biggest difference.
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Originally Posted by BigDaddyBry
Headers, they'll last longer than your 10 bolt.