400RWHP Possible?
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Originally Posted by Unlimited
_ If you have no experience with nitrous, or don't know someone who does....I wouldn't without a doubt in my mind recommend it, very very easy to mess up with it. As they say "you spray, you pay"
_ Bolt ons and Cam/tune route is a much safer way imo. Except if you are looking for daily drivability, you can kiss your gas mileage goodbye!!!
_ However, if you are looking for a 400hp daily driver....you might want to look into perhaps getting a turbo, but you will need fuel upgrades and a tune. Alot of people using turbos seem to retain their stock gas mileage and stock drivibility when they >>>>>>DON'T HIT THE GAS<<<<<<< from my experience.
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_ Bolt ons and Cam/tune route is a much safer way imo. Except if you are looking for daily drivability, you can kiss your gas mileage goodbye!!!
_ However, if you are looking for a 400hp daily driver....you might want to look into perhaps getting a turbo, but you will need fuel upgrades and a tune. Alot of people using turbos seem to retain their stock gas mileage and stock drivibility when they >>>>>>DON'T HIT THE GAS<<<<<<< from my experience.
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Well im sure the guy is not new to racing or else he wouldnt have bought a LS1 and joined this site...
and you say " dont recomend nitrous to sombody new at it."
Well if u think about it, were all new to nitrous at one point or another...
I clearly pointed out to him the options..
he asked for cheapest, so i said...nitrous..
i also stated bolt ons and cam...,but that's around $3,000+ compared to $700 with nitrous..
but to each his own..
and you say " dont recomend nitrous to sombody new at it."
Well if u think about it, were all new to nitrous at one point or another...
I clearly pointed out to him the options..
he asked for cheapest, so i said...nitrous..
i also stated bolt ons and cam...,but that's around $3,000+ compared to $700 with nitrous..
but to each his own..
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Originally Posted by 05 GSXR 1XXX
Well im sure the guy is not new to racing or else he wouldnt have bought a LS1 and joined this site...
and you say " dont recomend nitrous to sombody new at it."
Well if u think about it, were all new to nitrous at one point or another...
I clearly pointed out to him the options..
he asked for cheapest, so i said...nitrous..
i also stated bolt ons and cam...,but that's around $3,000+ compared to $700 with nitrous..
but to each his own..
and you say " dont recomend nitrous to sombody new at it."
Well if u think about it, were all new to nitrous at one point or another...
I clearly pointed out to him the options..
he asked for cheapest, so i said...nitrous..
i also stated bolt ons and cam...,but that's around $3,000+ compared to $700 with nitrous..
but to each his own..
Very true, but i'd have to say 9 out of every 10 gear heads that starting using nitrous had either a mentor, or knew someone that knew someone that uses/used it.
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read this https://ls1tech.com/forums/generation-iii-external-engine/520845-mod-guide-induction-exhaust-please-read-before-posting.html it will help you out alot if your new to this....
im not going to say 400 hp from boltons is not possible but it is very VERY unlikely.... when u look at parts dont add up the maximum gains from that product...
start off with the basics then go from there...
im not going to say 400 hp from boltons is not possible but it is very VERY unlikely.... when u look at parts dont add up the maximum gains from that product...
start off with the basics then go from there...
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Originally Posted by presto_z
read this https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=520845 it will help you out alot if your new to this....
im not going to say 400 hp from boltons is not possible but it is very VERY unlikely.... when u look at parts dont add up the maximum gains from that product...
start off with the basics then go from there...
im not going to say 400 hp from boltons is not possible but it is very VERY unlikely.... when u look at parts dont add up the maximum gains from that product...
start off with the basics then go from there...
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Originally Posted by MillaTK
I have yet to hear of a single person making 400RWHP(not fwhp) with bolt ons alone.
neither have i.. but there are some freakishly strong cars stock out there... my buddies hit 338 to the rear wheels bone stock and not to mention 150k on the clock.... thats why i said it may not be impossible but very VERY unlikely
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Originally Posted by Unlimited
_ If you have no experience with nitrous, or don't know someone who does....I wouldn't without a doubt in my mind recommend it, very very easy to mess up with it. As they say "you spray, you pay"
_ Bolt ons and Cam/tune route is a much safer way imo. Except if you are looking for daily drivability, you can kiss your gas mileage goodbye!!!
_ However, if you are looking for a 400hp daily driver....you might want to look into perhaps getting a turbo, but you will need fuel upgrades and a tune. Alot of people using turbos seem to retain their stock gas mileage and stock drivibility when they >>>>>>DON'T HIT THE GAS<<<<<<< from my experience.
hope this helps!!
_ Bolt ons and Cam/tune route is a much safer way imo. Except if you are looking for daily drivability, you can kiss your gas mileage goodbye!!!
_ However, if you are looking for a 400hp daily driver....you might want to look into perhaps getting a turbo, but you will need fuel upgrades and a tune. Alot of people using turbos seem to retain their stock gas mileage and stock drivibility when they >>>>>>DON'T HIT THE GAS<<<<<<< from my experience.
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Originally Posted by 05 GSXR 1XXX
Well im sure the guy is not new to racing or else he wouldnt have bought a LS1 and joined this site...
and you say " dont recomend nitrous to sombody new at it."
Well if u think about it, were all new to nitrous at one point or another...
I clearly pointed out to him the options..
he asked for cheapest, so i said...nitrous..
i also stated bolt ons and cam...,but that's around $3,000+ compared to $700 with nitrous..
but to each his own..
and you say " dont recomend nitrous to sombody new at it."
Well if u think about it, were all new to nitrous at one point or another...
I clearly pointed out to him the options..
he asked for cheapest, so i said...nitrous..
i also stated bolt ons and cam...,but that's around $3,000+ compared to $700 with nitrous..
but to each his own..
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Wow. thanx alot for the info guys. i really appriciate it. soo many good suggestions.
I dont have a motor yet. But i am planning on doin an ls1 swap in a BMW e30.
As for NOS, i have never had experience and i will not be using it on this swap i do since i want the motor last me for very long time. (PS. how long can these motor last if maintain tip top?) As u can see i am new to this.
What ive learn so far to make that much hp is,
A good cam. Any prefer manuf.?,
LS6 Intake,
Headers,
Lid will not be part of this since its going to be hybrid. Im planning on a good K&N filter.
For ECU tuneing since its an OBD II will i need a special program/hardware to tune it?If So what manufacture?
thanks again for the help.
*edit* will stock clutch hold up @ that hp?
I dont have a motor yet. But i am planning on doin an ls1 swap in a BMW e30.
As for NOS, i have never had experience and i will not be using it on this swap i do since i want the motor last me for very long time. (PS. how long can these motor last if maintain tip top?) As u can see i am new to this.
What ive learn so far to make that much hp is,
A good cam. Any prefer manuf.?,
LS6 Intake,
Headers,
Lid will not be part of this since its going to be hybrid. Im planning on a good K&N filter.
For ECU tuneing since its an OBD II will i need a special program/hardware to tune it?If So what manufacture?
thanks again for the help.
*edit* will stock clutch hold up @ that hp?
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Originally Posted by 99blancoSS
No, or at least mine didnt
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Originally Posted by 99camarosupersport
Also not true, my LS1 was the first fast car and when i joined this site i had never raced. Just loved the camaro's and wanted a Z originally. Nothing wrong with that. Then i started to want more, and here i am today. Not trying to be an ***. All of your other points are very good though. But if i was him and new to fast cars and racing (which we ALL were at one point.) Then that is when i would NOT reccommend nitrous. Get use to the speed and power first of stock. If you've had faster cars, spray away. ![Happy](https://ls1tech.com/forums/images/smilies/LS1Tech/gr_stretch.gif)
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he said he wants 400 hp the cheapest way.. obviouly hes got to get used to the power, im sure and hope he will test out his power levels on different settings..etc...
but since he said hes not running nitrous then i guess it really doesnt matter anymore lol.
anyways good luck with your build in the e30, i dont know what kind of project your getting into, just beaware of the time consumption aswell money!
keep us update 2!
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Originally Posted by 05 GSXR 1XXX
Dont take this personal or whatever... but either way hes going to make 400hp... so it doesnt matter if he uses nitrous or not.
he said he wants 400 hp the cheapest way.. obviouly hes got to get used to the power, im sure and hope he will test out his power levels on different settings..etc...
but since he said hes not running nitrous then i guess it really doesnt matter anymore lol.
anyways good luck with your build in the e30, i dont know what kind of project your getting into, just beaware of the time consumption aswell money!
keep us update 2!
he said he wants 400 hp the cheapest way.. obviouly hes got to get used to the power, im sure and hope he will test out his power levels on different settings..etc...
but since he said hes not running nitrous then i guess it really doesnt matter anymore lol.
anyways good luck with your build in the e30, i dont know what kind of project your getting into, just beaware of the time consumption aswell money!
keep us update 2!
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Originally Posted by LS1E30
Wow. thanx alot for the info guys. i really appriciate it. soo many good suggestions.
I dont have a motor yet. But i am planning on doin an ls1 swap in a BMW e30.
As for NOS, i have never had experience and i will not be using it on this swap i do since i want the motor last me for very long time. (PS. how long can these motor last if maintain tip top?) As u can see i am new to this.
What ive learn so far to make that much hp is,
A good cam. Any prefer manuf.?,
LS6 Intake,
Headers,
Lid will not be part of this since its going to be hybrid. Im planning on a good K&N filter.
For ECU tuneing since its an OBD II will i need a special program/hardware to tune it?If So what manufacture?
thanks again for the help.
*edit* will stock clutch hold up @ that hp?
I dont have a motor yet. But i am planning on doin an ls1 swap in a BMW e30.
As for NOS, i have never had experience and i will not be using it on this swap i do since i want the motor last me for very long time. (PS. how long can these motor last if maintain tip top?) As u can see i am new to this.
What ive learn so far to make that much hp is,
A good cam. Any prefer manuf.?,
LS6 Intake,
Headers,
Lid will not be part of this since its going to be hybrid. Im planning on a good K&N filter.
For ECU tuneing since its an OBD II will i need a special program/hardware to tune it?If So what manufacture?
thanks again for the help.
*edit* will stock clutch hold up @ that hp?