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have any of you guys read the book buy Will Handzel its about how to build high-performance chevy ls1/ls6 v-8s. In chapter 6 it explains how anyone can install 100 hp. Basically it explains that yoU need cylinder heads, camshaft, timing chain, longtube headers,ls6 intake manifold kit, pcm calibration, 160 degree thermostat, cold air box kit; And a maf sensor all the parts are from slp and wheel to wheel charges $5000 for the dyno and installation. So my question is it worth the money and have any of you guys here heard or dealt with these guys from wheel to wheel their located in warren michigan. thanks
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W2W is a great shop but a much easier way to get a bolt on 100hp is nitrous. Total cost about $600 & install it yourself. No dyno tune required.

If you want more parts for all the time power get the following & I DON'T suggest using all SLP, they are overpriced & other companies have WAY better customer service.

1) decent cam & valvetrain to support
2) LT style headers
3) ORY
4) good flowing catback or true duals
5) LS6 intake
6) Port/Polished TB
7) Dyno tune

You can save lots on installing parts yourself or having someone local on the board lend you a hand. You don't need heads to break 400 RWHP. Also I say leave your stock MAF alone.
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I'm not going to say Don't buy from SLP b/c they are overpriced, bad cs, questionable quality, etc...but I am going to tell you to look around (sponsors) and spend a lot of time on this site before you drop $5k on something....
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For $5K you should be able to get close to 500RWHP. Like stated before you won't need heads to gain 100+hp. What year car are you working on?
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$5000??? Good Lord I have added over 100hp to 2 of my former LS1 cars for under $2500. You can have a full bolt on setup for around $1000-1500. Even bolt ons can gain you close to 50hp. There are plenty of head/cam packages for around $1500 that can gain you 50-75hp depending on how aggressive you go. SLP has prices that are not backed up by quality.
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Originally Posted by blue01ta
For $5K you should be able to get close to 500RWHP. Like stated before you won't need heads to gain 100+hp. What year car are you working on?

hell yeah. for 5k you could get a sts system. if you spend $5k and only gain 100hp, you got ripped!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by jamesSS
hell yeah. for 5k you could get a sts system. if you spend $5k and only gain 100hp, you got ripped!!!!!!!
SS Dual exhaust w/ cats & nice tips: $1500 easy
Budget ported LS6 heads: $1025
Used LS6 intake + crossover & gaskets: $350
TB porting: free
QTP LT headers: $650
Used valve covers & coil brackets (perimeter to center bolt): $100+
Cam: $399
Pushrods: $110
Lifters: $110
Air lid: $85
Underdrive pulley, ARP bolt, & belts: $224
O2 sensor extensions: $45
Poly motor mounts: $45
Cometic head gaskets: $153
ARP head bolt kit: $132
GM header gaskets: $15
LS6 Oil pump: $70

Total: $5013

This is a quick list, and not all inclusive. Prices are approximate, and people can/will pay more and less. Obviously, the exhaust could be done much cheaper. Tuning is not even addressed. Stock, most say my car was probably 290-310rwhp. If I hit 400rwhp/400rwtq I will be pretty happy. I do not feel I am getting ripped.
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Originally Posted by blue01ta
For $5K you should be able to get close to 500RWHP. Like stated before you won't need heads to gain 100+hp. What year car are you working on?
its a 2002 ss vert a4 bone stock
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**** no need for exhaust just put a cut out on the stock i pipe! so take away 1400 then no need for lifters at this point! ls6 heads for 899! no need for ls6 intake already has one and add a stall for the auto!

you can get 100 hp for i would say $3000 at the most!
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Please look around at sponsors, ask alot of Questions and check the parts in for sale
section or the areas like the group purchases. Is 100 hp all that you are looking for ? there are a few ways to make 100 hp.

A cam, headers and some heads from Texas speed performance is 1 route to go.
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Originally Posted by wildta
Please look around at sponsors, ask alot of Questions and check the parts in for sale
section or the areas like the group purchases. Is 100 hp all that you are looking for ? there are a few ways to make 100 hp.

A cam, headers and some heads from Texas speed performance is 1 route to go.
thanks for the replys. What im really looking at is to get the most performance out of the engine without stressing the internals
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I have about 3500-4000 in mods including a tune and dyno time and i make 371rwhp N/A. I coulda made more had i went with a bigger cam i'm sure i have the .563/.563 TR224, but on an A4 371 isn't bad and the stall eats up some ponies too. For my total though cut 500 or so off cause i done another cam swap and had to get another tune done which you won't have to do if you get a cam you'll be happy with the first time . But i don't feel i'm taxing the motor at all. Although my cam and springs were used, and the injectors i used are GTP injectors used also and i got them really cheap. The stall was used also and i installed all this stuff myself. The heads i polished up myself also, so that kept the cost down quite abit.
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Originally Posted by 89tang
get a cam you'll be happy with the first time
It's very important to buy parts that you will be happy with the first time. Too many people have bought multiple things because they didn't get out of them what they wanted too. A lot of people put in 2 or 3 different cams before they find the one they like, or put in too small injectors just to buy bigger ones later. You will save a lot of money by doing research on this site and not buying until you are sure of exactly what you want. Be careful of saying I will be happy with X amount of horsepower. I have been modding cars for 12 years now and don't know too many people who are ever satisfied with what they have. Once you reach your goal you will want more.
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well just put the ms3 camshaft from texas speed along with PRC spprings ($750), longtubes500-1000, cutout100, port and polished throttle body(your self), underdrive pulley(220), injectors(250) and a stall750 to top it off and you will be around 400RWHP like me! so that 80-90 without heads! so you can do all this for 3000 then add a 500 dollar tune and your at 3500 or so! or you can get all these used and save yourself a grand or so!
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aggressive cam and heads shouldnt run more than $1k (used) for an extra 100hp, no?
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ummmm a big cam and nice set of used heads should be less than 1500 for sure!
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Originally Posted by bsf
SS Dual exhaust w/ cats & nice tips: $1500 easy
Budget ported LS6 heads: $1025
Used LS6 intake + crossover & gaskets: $350
TB porting: free
QTP LT headers: $650
Used valve covers & coil brackets (perimeter to center bolt): $100+
Cam: $399
Pushrods: $110
Lifters: $110
Air lid: $85
Underdrive pulley, ARP bolt, & belts: $224
O2 sensor extensions: $45
Poly motor mounts: $45
Cometic head gaskets: $153
ARP head bolt kit: $132
GM header gaskets: $15
LS6 Oil pump: $70

Total: $5013

This is a quick list, and not all inclusive. Prices are approximate, and people can/will pay more and less. Obviously, the exhaust could be done much cheaper. Tuning is not even addressed. Stock, most say my car was probably 290-310rwhp. If I hit 400rwhp/400rwtq I will be pretty happy. I do not feel I am getting ripped.

different strokes for different folks. or you could just throw a 125 shot on it for $750(safely) and be done with it. i guess it depends on what your looking for in your car.
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Originally Posted by jamesSS
different strokes for different folks. or you could just throw a 125 shot on it for $750(safely) and be done with it. i guess it depends on what your looking for in your car.
How about when you run outta nitrous you no longer have that extra 125hp, so most ppl. want an extra 100 ponies without having spray. Another 125 from the nitrous is just an insurance policy most of the time lol.
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Originally Posted by BIG_MIKE2005
W2W is a great shop but a much easier way to get a bolt on 100hp is nitrous. Total cost about $600 & install it yourself. No dyno tune required.

If you want more parts for all the time power get the following & I DON'T suggest using all SLP, they are overpriced & other companies have WAY better customer service.

1) decent cam & valvetrain to support
2) LT style headers
3) ORY
4) good flowing catback or true duals
5) LS6 intake
6) Port/Polished TB
7) Dyno tune


You can save lots on installing parts yourself or having someone local on the board lend you a hand. You don't need heads to break 400 RWHP. Also I say leave your stock MAF alone.
well let me see.. i have

1) no cam
2) QTP race style LTs
3) 3" O/R H
4) True Duals - 1 Chamber Flows
5) LS6 Intake (stock on my 2002 Trans Am)
6) Sending my TB to Bo to get P&P.. did the bump stop mod
7) no tune yet

so how much you think i gainned over my stock numbers??? which if i were to guess would be about 285 RWHP..
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Originally Posted by jamesSS
different strokes for different folks. or you could just throw a 125 shot on it for $750(safely) and be done with it. i guess it depends on what your looking for in your car.
I agree.


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